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Subject: Re: Normal blitz win against Fritz

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:32:18 01/06/03

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On January 06, 2003 at 14:15:00, Chris wrote:

>On January 06, 2003 at 14:06:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2003 at 12:45:28, Chris wrote:
>>
>>>Some people here seems to doubt that it is possible to beat the top engines, but
>>>I found out that you can still do it with the normal means of setting up the
>>>Stonewall as White.
>>>
>>>These games was of course played without takeback or other kinds of cheating.
>>>
>>>My OTB ELO is 2230 and I have studied computer weaknesses a lot.
>>>
>>>After this game, I lost six in a row, and I decided that maybe I need some more
>>>time the next time I challenge Fritz :-) I believe I would have a better chance
>>>at tournament speed.
>>
>>I believe that at tournament speed Fritz8 also can play better.
>>It is possible that it will not let you to win by the same strategy and the only
>>way to know is to try.
>>
>>It is a mistake to get a conclusion from speed chess about tournament time
>>control games.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>I believe Fritz would be stronger tactically in a longer game, but I don't think
>it would change so much strategically. I was getting into this position by
>following its book.


If the book has no errors then the question is simply if Fritz does the same
mistakes if you give it some minutes to calculate.

I do not know what is the point when Fritz8 starts to show negative evaluation.

analyzing with yace and going backward so yace can learn shows that yace see a
clear advantage for white after 31...hxg6(1.84 pawns)

Yace learned the following line
31...hxg6 32.fxg6 Rff8 33.Ng3 f5 34.Nxf5 Qe6 35.Qg5 Kg8 36.Qh5 Rxf5 37.Bxf5
Qxe3+ 38.Kc2 Qxg1 39.Qh7+ Kf8 40.Qh8+ Ke7 41.Qxg7+ Kd6
  +-  (1.84)


Yace does not like 31...hxg6 after learning the line and I have the following
analysis

[D]4r2k/p3qrpp/2b2pP1/3p1P1N/2pP1Q1P/2P1P3/P1BK4/6R1 b - - 0 1



Analysis

31...Rff8 32.gxh7 Rf7 33.Qg3 Kxh7 34.Nf4 Kg8 35.h5 Qc7 36.h6 Rfe7 37.Ng6 Rd7
38.Qxc7
  =  (-0.23)   Depth: 13   00:01:32  33598kN
31...Rff8 32.gxh7 Rf7 33.Qg3 Kxh7 34.Nf4 Kg8 35.h5 Kh7 36.Ne6 Kh8 37.Qg6 Bd7
38.h6 Bxe6
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 14   00:04:29  94591kN
31...Rff8 32.gxh7 Rf7 33.Qg3 Kxh7 34.Nf4 Qd7 35.Ne6 Kh8 36.h5 Qe7 37.Qg6 Bd7
38.h6
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 15   00:16:59  324004kN

(blass, tel-aviv 06.01.2003)

Uri



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