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Subject: Re: Test position, rook endgame w/ passers & candidate

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:38:35 01/06/03

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On January 06, 2003 at 03:49:00, Scott Gasch wrote:

>Here's a position from monsoon-tinker tonight.  I believe that monsoon has just
>blundered the win by playing f5.  It's tinker's move now and I think that f6
>holds the draw.  Tinker played Ka6 which lost because it allowed white to play
>e5 and make another passer.  Monsoon wants to play c3 here with a drawish
>score... maybe that plan works too.  What does your engine say and do you chess
>experts think f6 really holds?
>
>[D]2r5/1k3ppp/1P6/P4P2/2p1P3/8/7P/2R4K b - - 0 40

Chessmaster 9000, on a P3-733, says that c3 holds:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	0.08	3290		40...c3 41.Kg2 Rc5 42.f6 gxf6
0:00	1/6	-0.05	14505		40...c3 41.Rc2 Rc5 42.Kg2 f6 43.Kf3
					Rxa5 44.Rxc3 Kxb6
0:00	2/7	0.02	36423		40...c3 41.Kg2 Rc5 42.Kf3 f6 43.Kf4
					Rxa5 44.Rxc3 Kxb6
0:01	3/8	-0.05	63381		40...c3 41.Kg2 c2 42.Kf3 f6 43.Ke3
					Ka6 44.Kd2 Kxa5 45.Rxc2 Rxc2+ 46.Kxc2
					Kxb6
0:03	4/9	0.66	224194		40...c3 41.e5 Rc5 42.e6 Rxa5 43.Rxc3
					Rxf5 44.Rc7+ Kxb6 45.Rxf7
0:04	4/9	0.52	289592		40...Rc5 41.Ra1 Rc8 42.e5 Re8 43.Rd1
					c3 44.Rd7+ Kb8 45.Rxf7 Rxe5 46.Rxg7
					Rxa5
0:08	5/10	0.35	697505		40...Rc5 41.Ra1 Rc8 42.e5 c3 43.e6
					fxe6 44.fxe6 Kc6 45.Ra2 Kb7 46.e7
0:17	6/11	0.36	1470131		40...Rc5 41.Ra1 Ka6 42.f6 gxf6
					43.Rb1 Rc8 44.Kg2 c3 45.b7 Rb8
					46.Rb6+ Kxa5
0:41	7/12	0.28	3650168		40...Rc5 41.Ra1 Ka6 42.f6 gxf6
					43.Rb1 Rc8 44.Kg2 c3 45.Kf2 c2
					46.b7 Rb8 47.Rb6+ Kxa5
1:53	8/13	0.87	10577876	40...Rc5 41.Ra1 Rc8 42.e5 Re8 43.a6+
					Kxb6 44.a7 Ra8 45.e6 fxe6 46.fxe6
					c3 47.e7 Kb7 48.Rb1+ Kc6 49.Rb8
4:14	8/13	0.20	24075868	40...c3 41.e5 Rc5 42.e6 Rxa5 43.Rxc3
					fxe6 44.fxe6 Re5 45.Rc7+ Kxb6 46.Rxg7
					Rxe6 47.Rxh7 Re1+ 48.Kg2 Kc6
6:15	9/14	0.19	36432171	40...c3 41.e5 Rc5 42.e6 Rxa5 43.Rxc3
					fxe6 44.fxe6 Re5 45.Rc7+ Kxb6 46.Rxg7
					Kc5 47.h4 Kd6 48.Kg2 Kxe6 49.Rxh7

After forcing 40...f6, we have:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.22	543		41.Rg1 Ka6 42.Rxg7 Kxa5
0:00	1/4	0.68	1328		41.Rg1 Ka6 42.Rxg7 c3
0:00	1/5	0.66	5927		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.Rg3 Ka6 43.Kg2 Kxa5
0:00	1/6	0.80	16151		41.Rg1 g6 42.fxg6 hxg6 43.Rxg6
					Ka6 44.Kg2 c3
0:00	2/7	0.89	45866		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.e5 fxe5 43.f6 g6
					44.f7 Rc8 45.Rf1
0:01	3/8	0.89	84706		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.e5 fxe5 43.f6 g6
					44.f7 Rc8 45.Rf1
0:02	4/9	1.06	212672		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.e5 fxe5 43.f6 g6
					44.f7 Rf8 45.Rf1 c3
0:06	5/10	0.88	556226		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.Rg3 Ka6 43.e5 Rb8
					44.Rxg7 Kxa5 45.b7 fxe5
0:20	6/11	0.81	1705870		41.Rg1 Rg8 42.e5 fxe5 43.f6 g6
					44.Rd1 c3 45.f7 Rc8 46.Rc1 Rf8
					47.Rf1
0:58	7/12	0.91	5091082		41.Rg1 g6 42.fxg6 hxg6 43.Rxg6
					c3 44.Rg7+ Kc6 45.b7 Re8 46.Rg3
					Kxb7 47.Rxc3 Rxe4 48.Rf3 Ra4
2:31	8/13	0.83	13668384	41.Rg1 c3 42.Rxg7+ Kc6 43.b7 Re8
					44.Rg3 c2 45.b8=N+ Rxb8 46.Rc3+
					Kd6 47.Rxc2 Rb1+ 48.Kg2 Ra1 49.Rd2+
					Ke5 50.Rd7 Rxa5 51.Rxh7 Kxe4
5:43	9/14	0.85	31326405	41.Rg1 c3 42.Rxg7+ Kc6 43.b7 Re8
					44.Rg3 c2 45.b8=N+ Rxb8 46.Rc3+
					Kd6 47.Rxc2 Rb1+ 48.Kg2 Ra1 49.Rb2
					Ke5 50.Rb6 Rxa5 51.Re6+ Kd4 52.Rxf6
					Kxe4

jm



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