Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:27:33 01/06/03
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On January 06, 2003 at 17:17:13, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 06, 2003 at 15:43:18, Steve Maughan wrote: > >>Uri, >> >>>strong in tactics? >>> >>>I do not agree. >> >>Hmmmmmmmmmm, I think you're being argumenatative for the sake of it. Little >>Goliath is not perfect but if there is one thing is is good at it's tactics. > >No > >I believe that even shredder6 is better than goliath in tactics. > >test positions are misleading. > >Tactics is not only sacrifices. >I remember a game from the ssdf games when Goliath was simply outsearched by >shredder based on my analysis. > >It chose a move that is losing material in the middle game and my shredder5.32 >could see the tactics earlier. >> >>All of the following positions are solved quickly by LG and I would certainly >>say that this *does* indicate tactical strength. If test positions don't games >>certainly don't e.g. Shredder 4 is weak at tactics but nevertheless strong >> >>Times for a 1.5 GHz P4 - I'd be interested in Movei's times. For it to be "not >>quite as good" I'd expect it to solve all of these within 30 secs each > >I suggest that you download movei > >Public Movei can solve the first 2 in less than 30 seconds. >The second one is easy for movei. I compared with the output of latest movei not public version and still not tested enough but one of the modification is some improvement of the recapture extension The result is that the last position is solved clearly faster and if you use fast hardware then movei needs less than 30 seconds. I give output of latest still not tested enough movei Note that the last position is more endgame position so I expect the fact that movei does not use hash table in an efficient way to be more counter productive. > > >> >>[d]3r1b2/p4bkp/1p1P1p2/r3p1p1/2q1N3/2N2P2/1P1R2PP/2QR3K w - - 0 1 >> >>LG 2 secs (Nxf6) > >Public Movei p850 needs 26.86 seconds to fail high > >9 -57 2686 3451622 e4f6 >9 -28 2845 3660501 e4f6 >9 31 4723 6022109 e4f6 f7g6 b2b4 c4b4 c3e4 d8a8 c1c7 g7h8 d6d7 g6e4 f3e4 >9 31 4756 6065598 e4f6 f7g6 b2b4 c4b4 c3e4 d8a8 c1c7 g7h8 d6d7 g6e4 f3e4 9 -57 2416 3376972 e4f6 9 -28 2570 3596689 e4f6 9 31 4059 5575859 e4f6 f7g6 b2b4 c4b4 c3e4 d8a8 c1c7 g7h8 d6d7 g6e4 f3e4 9 31 4086 5623382 e4f6 f7g6 b2b4 c4b4 c3e4 d8a8 c1c7 g7h8 d6d7 g6e4 f3e4 > > >> >>[d]r1b2r2/3pNpkp/3pn1p1/2pN3P/2PnP3/q3QP2/4BKP1/1R5R w - - 0 1 >> >>LG 3 secs (Qh6) > >Public movei on 850 mhz. > >7 57 511 702228 e3h6 >7 86 544 740950 e3h6 >7 9979 1395 1739365 e3h6 g7h6 h5g6 h6g5 h1h5 g5h5 f3f4 a3f3 e2f3 d4f3 b1h1 f3h4 >d5f6 h5h6 h1h4 h6g7 f6e8 f8e8 h4h7 g7f6 >7 9979 1401 1742953 e3h6 g7h6 h5g6 h6g5 h1h5 g5h5 f3f4 a3f3 e2f3 d4f3 b1h1 f3h4 >d5f6 h5h6 h1h4 h6g7 f6e8 f8e8 h4h7 g7f6 7 57 599 884956 e3h6 7 86 621 918434 e3h6 7 9979 1533 2013557 e3h6 g7h6 h5g6 h6g5 h1h5 g5h5 f3f4 a3f3 e2f3 d4f3 b1h1 f3h4 d5f6 h5h6 h1h4 h6g7 f6e8 f8e8 h4h7 g7f6 7 9979 1538 2018277 e3h6 g7h6 h5g6 h6g5 h1h5 g5h5 f3f4 a3f3 e2f3 d4f3 b1h1 f3h4 d5f6 h5h6 h1h4 h6g7 f6e8 f8e8 h4h7 g7f6 P > >> >>[d]r5r1/8/bRP1pk1p/3pNp2/5P2/7P/PR4P1/6K1 w - - 0 1 >> >>LG 8 secs (Rxa6) 11 216 2801 4546104 c6c7 a6c8 b6b8 a8a7 b2c2 f6g7 h3h4 g8e8 b8b1 a7a3 h4h5 11 217 4372 7332329 b6a6 11 246 4438 7459468 b6a6 11 319 4625 7814141 b6a6 a8a6 b2b7 g8g7 c6c7 a6a8 b7b8 g7g8 b8a8 g8a8 e5d7 f6f7 d7b6 a8g8 c7c8q g8c8 b6c8 11 319 4685 7920707 b6a6 a8a6 b2b7 g8g7 c6c7 a6a8 b7b8 g7g8 b8a8 g8a8 e5d7 f6f7 d7b6 a8g8 c7c8q g8c8 b6c8 12 364 5443 9366312 b6a6 a8a6 b2b7 g8g7 c6c7 a6a8 b7b8 g7c7 b8a8 h6h5 g2g3 d5d4 g1f2 c7c2 f2f3 c2c3 f3f2 12 364 5893 10196377 b6a6 a8a6 b2b7 g8g7 c6c7 a6a8 b7b8 g7c7 b8a8 h6h5 g2g3 d5d4 g1f2 c7c2 f2f3 c2c3 f3f2 13 353 6624 11597428 b6a6 a8a6 b2b7 g8g7 c6c7 a6a8 b7b8 g7c7 b8a8 h6h5 g2g3 d5d4 g1f1 c7c2 a8a7 Uri
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