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Subject: Re: Normal blitz win against Fritz

Author: Mark Young

Date: 04:51:22 01/07/03

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On January 07, 2003 at 06:33:17, Chris wrote:

>On January 07, 2003 at 00:32:23, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2003 at 14:15:00, Chris wrote:
>>
>>>On January 06, 2003 at 14:06:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 06, 2003 at 12:45:28, Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Some people here seems to doubt that it is possible to beat the top engines, but
>>>>>I found out that you can still do it with the normal means of setting up the
>>>>>Stonewall as White.
>>>>>
>>>>>These games was of course played without takeback or other kinds of cheating.
>>>>>
>>>>>My OTB ELO is 2230 and I have studied computer weaknesses a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>After this game, I lost six in a row, and I decided that maybe I need some more
>>>>>time the next time I challenge Fritz :-) I believe I would have a better chance
>>>>>at tournament speed.
>>>>
>>>>I believe that at tournament speed Fritz8 also can play better.
>>>>It is possible that it will not let you to win by the same strategy and the only
>>>>way to know is to try.
>>>>
>>>>It is a mistake to get a conclusion from speed chess about tournament time
>>>>control games.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I believe Fritz would be stronger tactically in a longer game, but I don't think
>>>it would change so much strategically. I was getting into this position by
>>>following its book.
>>
>>It looks like Fritz blundered in a better position mostly due to a slow
>>computer. How do you win if Fritz plays 30.. Rg8. This would be played by Fritz
>>8 on a faster computer.
>>
>>I may be wrong, but I don't see were Fritz was strategically lost. Not until the
>>Blunder Rf7.
>
>
>The thing is that doesn't sense the dangers of the position which would be there
>even without Rf7

What kind of statement is that? A computer can never sense danger, it can only
see danger. With a slow computer and fast time control it did not see the
danger. With an up to date computer it would have and does.

I disagree with your point, and I don't think you can show it to be true.

That you were winning this game before the blunder. At a slower time control or
with a faster computer Fritz 8 would not have lost this game.





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