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Subject: Re: Evaluation in Rebel

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 05:46:56 01/07/03

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On January 07, 2003 at 07:31:35, Tony Werten wrote:

>On January 07, 2003 at 07:17:27, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On January 07, 2003 at 06:48:50, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On January 07, 2003 at 05:47:37, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 07, 2003 at 05:05:31, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>>your board tables seem to ignore xray attacks.
>>
>>
>>>>xray attacks are done, it's only not mentioned as I thought it would be
>>>>self-understood.
>>
>>>I don't see how they are combined with the boardtables to find hanging pieces.
>>>
>>>Adding them as normal attacks will make you go wrong as often as not counting
>>>them at all, is my guess.
>>
>>Let's go through a couple of xray examples:


>I understand (I think). Ignore low pieces through high pieces, but add high
>through low as a normal attack. Seems a cheap way. One question though. Will it
>go wrong in this position (g8) ?

Rebel will report that G8 is hanging, expected gain 5.00

It's all in those bits, there are a few complicated cases you don't get the
right status, but over 99.9% will get it right.

Ed


>[d]r2qkbqr/pbppp1pp/1pn2p2/3Q4/2B5/2P1P3/PP1P1PPP/RNB1K1NR b KQkq -
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>Tony
>
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>>[d]rn1qkbnr/pbppp1pp/1p3p2/8/2B5/1QP1P3/PP1P1PPP/RNB1K1NR b KQkq -
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>>The knight on G8 is hanging, 2 attackers, one defender, the lowest attacking
>>piece is a bishop. You can extract this from the bit settings.
>>
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>>[d]r2qkbnr/pbppp1pp/1pn2p2/3Q4/2B5/2P1P3/PP1P1PPP/RNB1K1NR b KQkq -
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>>The knight on G8 is not hanging because the lowest attacking piece is a Queen.
>>
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>>[d]rn2kbnr/pppqpppp/3pb3/8/8/P1N4N/1PPPPPPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq -
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>>The white knight on H3 is well covered, 2 attackers, 2 defenders, the lowest
>>attacking piece is a bishop, but its defender is lower, a pawn. The white bishop
>>on F1 looks through G2 to H3.
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is that because it doesn't matter too much, or because it's mainly used for move
>>>>>ordering ( so it's only less effective but not wrong ) ?
>>>>
>>>>I use xray also for evaluation, for instance for mobilty, king safety, so xray
>>>>must be done and in an accurate way, I will write a little about it in the
>>>>mobility section.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>>Or do you handle xray attack as a normal attack ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony



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