Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 02:24:09 01/08/03
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On January 07, 2003 at 18:08:50, John Merlino wrote: >On January 07, 2003 at 16:03:10, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On January 07, 2003 at 15:27:55, Ralph Patriquin wrote: >> >>>On January 07, 2003 at 08:25:22, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >>> >>>>On January 07, 2003 at 02:08:19, Ralph Patriquin wrote: >>>> >>>>>I ran into a problem running The King 3.23 in Arena. It seems that The King >>>>>sends castling with zeros and not letter O's (0-0 and 0-0-0 vs O-O and O-O-O). >>>>>Arena's PV display doesn't like this and gets messed up, cutting off at the >>>>>castle move and displaying illegal moves at that point. I'm running The King >>>>>through InBetween, so to solve the problem translated 0's to O's for Arena. The >>>>>ironic thing is that Arena displays castling using zeros in both its PV and game >>>>>listing! >>>>> >>>>>Scid handles 0's, O's, or a mixture of the two with no problem. What is the >>>>>WinBoard protocol on this? >>>>> >>>>>Ralph >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>I have no interest to give support for engines under Arena with copy protection >>>>or for engines which run under Arena with adapter. Arena have 1:1 WB1, WB2 and >>>>UCI support and don't need any adapter. >>>> >>>>Best >>>>Frank >>> >>>Well, technically the copy protection (opk number) has nothing to do with this >>>problem, as any engine that uses zeros for castling would run into this. Dieter >>>Buerssner mentioned in the previous post that this is an ambiguity in the >>>WinBoard protocol. Just something to think about. Translating with InBetween >>>solves the problem for me, so I'm happy :). By the way, thanks for a great >>>contribution to Computer Chess freeware! Arena is already very nice and sure to >>>get better! >>> >>>Ralph >> >>Hi Ralph, >> >>thanks for your kind words and it's good to have programmers (here Yace >>programmer Dieter Bürssner) which are give all the time a good answere of >>questions. >> >>I got in the last year many mails about questions with TheKing under Arena but I >>have no interest on this for user bad and complicated copy protection. I am not >>a fan from copy protections. The group of users is not big enough create such >>things. >> >>Best >>Frank > >How many people do you think would be using TheKing without paying for a copy of >Chessmaster if there was no copy protection on the engine? One of the main >reasons people buy Chessmaster is for the latest version of this great engine. >If there was no copy protection on it, Johan would probably not get half of the >money that he is making now from his brilliant and hard work. > >jm Hi Jim, I have an other opinion and know marketing results from other firms (not chess products with much bigger "sales figures" compare Chessmaster -think so-). Sorry John, but your opinion is for me not to understand. For a mass market product not to understand ... A CD copy protection is enough, I mean if I must put the CD in my CDRom drive, copy protection only on CDRom. But a OPK number for a mass market product ... John please ... what do you make here? Best Frank
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