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Subject: Re: The answer is easy !

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 04:56:36 01/08/03

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On January 08, 2003 at 05:14:36, Aaron Gordon wrote:

Hi!

Fritz have see that all moves makes a draw an he would in BLITZ not play draw.
In analysis mode You can this not replay.

German:

Fritz 8 hat gesehen dass alle Züge nach dem Opfer auf g6 (Bxg6!) Remis machen.
Fritz suchte Alternativzüge um dem Remis auszuweichen (was man im Analysemodus
nicht reproduzieren kann!!). In seinem Horizont fand er dann b6 noch als
spielbar, und wollte so dem Remis auswichen. Dass der Zug verliert, das dämmerte
ihm zu spät auf dieser Stufe.

Ich bitte die Leser, auch ein wenig darum, nachzudenken warum was gespielt wurde
statt sofort zu kritisieren. ok?

Frans Morsch weiss dass ich die Wahrheit schreibe, schade dass er nicht hier im
Forum zu finden ist.

Frans weiss dass meine Partien nicht gefaket sind.



Eduard

>Eduard. How did you manage to get Fritz 8 to play 16...b6 or 22...Ne5? My Fritz
>8.0.0.5 (same as yours) thinks this:
>
>[D]r1b2rk1/1pp1bp2/p1n1pnBQ/6N1/8/P7/1PP1NqPP/R2K3R b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 8 with 320mb hash:
>
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  87kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:00  161kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:00  519kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:01  1218kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/31   00:00:03  2797kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/32   00:00:07  6454kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/42   00:00:15  14656kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/35   00:00:34  32839kN
>16...Ne5 17.Bh7+ Kh8 18.Bg6+ Kg8
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/44   00:01:16  74718kN
>
>As you can see it doesn't even consider b6. Fritz 7.0.0.8 does, not Fritz
>8.0.0.5.
>
>Now, for 22....Ne5. It considers it for less than 1 second for me, on a P3-600
>368kn/s will go by in around 1 second. Surely in a 5 minute blitz game it would
>think longer than 1 second. Here is the analysis by Fritz 8.0.0.5.
>
>[D]r1b2rk1/2p1bp2/ppn1pn1Q/6NB/8/P7/1PP3PP/R2K3R b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 8 with 320mb hash:
>
>22...Ne5 23.Kc1 Bb7 24.Rf1 Ned7 25.Bf3 Bd5 26.Re1 Bxf3 27.Nxf3 Rad8
>  +-  (3.66)   Depth: 6/28   00:00:00  255kN
>22...Ne5--
>  +-  (3.94)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  269kN
>22...Ne5-- 23.Rf1 Ned7 24.Bg6 Bb7 25.Bh7+ Kh8 26.Be4+ Kg8 27.Bxb7 Ra7 28.Be4 b5
>  +-  (5.91)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  344kN
>22...Nb4!
>  +-  (5.87)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  368kN
>22...Nb4!
>  +-  (5.72)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  375kN
>22...Nd4!
>  +-  (5.69)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  695kN
>22...Nd4!
>  +-  (5.53)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  696kN
>22...Nd4!
>  +-  (5.22)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  698kN
>22...Nd4!
>  +-  (4.59)   Depth: 7/28   00:00:00  702kN
>22...Nd4! 23.g4 Bb7 24.Rf1 Rad8 25.Kc1 c5 26.Rf2 Nxc2 27.Kxc2
>  +-  (4.41)   Depth: 7/29   00:00:00  783kN
>22...Nd4 23.g4 Bb7 24.Rf1 Be4 25.Rxf6 Rad8 26.Kc1
>  +-  (4.50)   Depth: 8/33   00:00:01  1001kN
>22...Nd4 23.g4 Bb7 24.Rf1 Be4 25.Rxf6 Rad8 26.Kc1
>  +-  (4.50)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:01  1382kN
>22...Nd4 23.g4 Bb7 24.Rf1 Rad8 25.Kc1 Ne2+ 26.Kb1 a5 27.h4 Ng3
>  +-  (4.72)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:02  2485kN
>22...Nd4--
>  +-  (5.00)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:07  7161kN
>22...Nd4-- 23.Bg6 Bb7 24.Rf1 Bf3+ 25.Nxf3 Rad8 26.Nxd4 Rxd4+ 27.Bd3
>  +-  (5.66)   Depth: 11/40   00:00:16  15248kN
>22...Nd4--
>  +-  (5.94)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:26  23632kN
>22...Nd4-- 23.Bg6 Bb7 24.Rf1 Bf3+ 25.Nxf3 Rad8 26.Nxd4 Rxd4+ 27.Bd3 Ne4 28.Ke2
>Rfd8 29.Kf3 Ng5+ 30.Kf2
>  +-  (6.09)   Depth: 12/38   00:00:29  27020kN
>22...Nd4--
>  +-  (6.37)   Depth: 13/35   00:00:55  50044kN
>22...Nd4-- 23.Bg6 Bb7 24.Rf1 Bf3+ 25.Nxf3 Rad8 26.Nxd4 Rxd4+ 27.Bd3 Ne4 28.Rf4
>f5 29.Kc1 Rf6 30.Qh5
>  +-  (6.53)   Depth: 13/52   00:01:07  60965kN
>22...Nd4--
>  +-  (6.81)   Depth: 14/39   00:02:21  128069kN
>
>
>Any ideas as to why your Fritz 8 plays those moves and mine doesn't would be
>appreciated.



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