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Subject: Re: The King, Arena and WinBoard

Author: John Merlino

Date: 19:19:28 01/08/03

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On January 08, 2003 at 20:26:51, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On January 08, 2003 at 18:42:14, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2003 at 05:24:09, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On January 07, 2003 at 18:08:50, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>How many people do you think would be using TheKing without paying for a copy of
>>>>Chessmaster if there was no copy protection on the engine? One of the main
>>>>reasons people buy Chessmaster is for the latest version of this great engine.
>>>>If there was no copy protection on it, Johan would probably not get half of the
>>>>money that he is making now from his brilliant and hard work.
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>Hi Jim,
>>>
>>>I have an other opinion and know marketing results from other firms (not chess
>>>products with much bigger "sales figures" compare Chessmaster -think so-).
>>>
>>>Sorry John, but your opinion is for me not to understand.
>>>
>>>For a mass market product not to understand ...
>>>A CD copy protection is enough, I mean if I must put the CD in my CDRom drive,
>>>copy protection only on CDRom. But a OPK number for a mass market product ...
>>>John please ... what do you make here?
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>The reason is that there are two different programs that BOTH need protection.
>>The Chessmaster GUI is one of them, and Johan's engine is the other. Johan's
>>engine would not need to be protected if it was not Winboard-compatible. In
>>other words, if it was not protected it could be used without owning the
>>Chessmaster software.
>>
>>And, since it is so easily distributable, there would be tens of thousands of
>>people (perhaps hundreds of thousands) using The King engine without paying for
>>it (by buying Chessmaster).
>>
>>The other point to remember is that The King engine was never intended to be
>>used outside the CM GUI. If Odd Gunnar Malin had not discovered the OPK number,
>>nobody would be complaining at all. The reason that The King is
>>Winboard-compatible is NOT so that it can be used outside the CM GUI, but
>>because the CM GUI is Winboard-compatible. The point was for users to be able to
>>use OTHER winboard engines inside the CM GUI -- not to use The King in OTHER
>>GUIs.
>>
>>But the MAIN point, as I said before, is to protect Johan's program, which is
>>certainly his right.
>>
>>jm
>
>Just have the engine require the CD - why this OPK number?  I think that is what
>Frank (and I ) don't understand.
>
>Mike

The CM GUI itself does not even require the CD every time you start it up. The
program requiring the CD was BY FAR the #1 complaint about CM8000.

And, not only that, the CM GUI protection scheme has been cracked. The OPK
method was merely discovered, but not yet cracked. Johan's protection scheme is
good and he has the right to protect his program any way he sees fit.

jm



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