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Subject: Re: Validating the Nunn positions

Author: José Carlos

Date: 05:52:16 01/09/03

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On January 08, 2003 at 15:34:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 08, 2003 at 15:18:18, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>We occasionally see posts where engines take turns playing the Nunn positions,
>>the idea being to give the engines an equal footing, but with some development.
>>But has anyone looked at whether white or black wins more often for each Nunn
>>position? Presumably, if white wins some 55% of the time for all openings (or
>>whatever the figure it, consult your database), then the same should hold true
>>for the Nunn positions: Given equal engines, white should win 55% of the time.
>>
>>Some large inequality between white or black would indicate that a particular
>>position ought to be deleted from the set, or some other position substituted.
>>
>>Roger
>
>The engine use white and black for both sides so I do not see the problem even
>in case that there are positions when white get 60%

  The argument of using black and white for each engine is only valid for equal
positions. An extreme example would be a position where white forces mate in 3.
All programs would look same strength as all would do 50% using white and black.
  So Roger's point is valid: are Nunn positions equal (or close) for black and
white? I don't have the answer because I've never seen Nunn positions.

  José C.


>and I can promise you that
>in no poition white get something close to 100%.
>
>Uri



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