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Subject: Re: Validating the Nunn positions

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:14:24 01/09/03

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On January 09, 2003 at 08:52:16, José Carlos wrote:

>On January 08, 2003 at 15:34:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2003 at 15:18:18, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>
>>>We occasionally see posts where engines take turns playing the Nunn positions,
>>>the idea being to give the engines an equal footing, but with some development.
>>>But has anyone looked at whether white or black wins more often for each Nunn
>>>position? Presumably, if white wins some 55% of the time for all openings (or
>>>whatever the figure it, consult your database), then the same should hold true
>>>for the Nunn positions: Given equal engines, white should win 55% of the time.
>>>
>>>Some large inequality between white or black would indicate that a particular
>>>position ought to be deleted from the set, or some other position substituted.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>
>>The engine use white and black for both sides so I do not see the problem even
>>in case that there are positions when white get 60%
>
>  The argument of using black and white for each engine is only valid for equal
>positions. An extreme example would be a position where white forces mate in 3.
>All programs would look same strength as all would do 50% using white and black.
>  So Roger's point is valid: are Nunn positions equal (or close) for black and
>white? I don't have the answer because I've never seen Nunn positions.
>
>  José C.

I believe that they are close to equal and my point is that I do not care if one
position is slightly better for white or for black(I guess that in most of them
white and black get more than 40%(maybe even in all of them).

Uri



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