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Subject: Re: The rebirth of CCC? - I can hope, can't I?

Author: Steven Swift

Date: 09:03:43 09/23/98

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On September 23, 1998 at 09:12:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>No... you are missing the point.  The basic problem is not with "policy" here,
>because we can all recognize abusive posts as well as informative posts.


Right. Where can be the problem with screening abuse. No doubt at all where it
has been in the past. Those guys got the sack.

>The
>problem here is with "methodology".  There is no easy way to screen posts for
>inappropriate comments, until *after* they have been seen by many people here.
>By then, it is too late.  I had suggested that this be totally moderated from
>day 1, where moderators have flexibility and can say "accept all posts from this
>user" or "only accept posts from this user after screening."

Right. Sure we could point the moderators at these people. Everybody knows who
they are.

>
>More rules *won't* help.  We simply need a better way for the moderators to
>work.  This is *not* the first such message board in existance.  This problem
>has been thrashed around for 20 years now, and some decent solutions do exist.
>
>


>
>
>I think you are over-simplifying the problem.  More rules won't help, because
>there is no good way to police the rules now.  If I post something calling you
>a "jackass" you may well see it before the moderators can delete it.  And you
>will probably respond, as will others, and we have a full-scale flame war going
>on with the moderators nearly helpless to stop it.

Right. We gotta stop these abusers before it is too late.

>The problem is that the
>moderators can't stay logged on here 24 hours a day, and even if they could,
>they couldn't possibly screen every post quickly enough to prevent such
>problems.
>
>I still believe we need a technological solution to help the moderators.

Right. There is no problem that doesn't have a technical solution. If our guys
can go to the moon, then we can make a system to zap abusers.

How about a program that screens targeted abusive posters. Easy to look for
keywords. These abuse guys aren't exactly masters of the use of words !!!! Then
it can have automatic expulsion forms printed out and emailed to the abuser
after two (2) warnings !!!!

>They
>are quite smart enough to know what is objectionable and what is not.  But they
>don't have the "tools" to manage this just yet...

How about Bob doing the screening. He has reputation and respect. We trust him.
He could do it. How about it, Bob ? Or could you write the ASP (Abuse Screening
Program) ?

Steve




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