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Subject: Re: Avoid move position - testing repetitions

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 06:29:19 01/10/03

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On January 10, 2003 at 05:28:42, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 10, 2003 at 05:17:53, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2003 at 21:36:57, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>On January 09, 2003 at 13:30:37, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>[...] In which case has anyone got any good position for testing
>>>>repetition detection.
>>>
>>>
>>>From SOS-Yace IPCCC, 2001
>>>
>>>[D] 8/p1rR4/4P3/5pp1/2kp4/P3PK2/8/8 b - - 1 44
>>>
>>>I think it is a draw here. But difficult to find. After 44...Rc6 45. e7 Re6 46.
>>>exd4 Kd3 47. d5 it is much easier.
>>>
>>>[D] 8/p2RP3/4r3/3P1pp1/8/P2k1K2/8/8 b - - 0 47
>>>
>>>The various positions in between might be interesting to test.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dieter
>>
>>
>>I get no indication of a draw even in the second (easy) position.  I tried
>>messing with extensions and the fifty move counter (changing it to a much
>>smaller number), but still no joy.....
>>
>>Is this a draw by three fold repetition?  (There are quite a few pawn moves.).
>>
>>Frank
>
>It is a simple perpetual check after Re3+ and Kf2.
>I have no problem to see it and the same for my engine.
>
>Uri

Well, I can see it, but the Baron can't. Neither can Crafty 19.0 by the way. On
a PII-500 and more than 9 minutes, Crafty gets a fail high on ply 16, but
eventually resolves it in 22 minutes, returning the score 2.27 (from the
perspective of white) and not a sign of the perpetual check variant in the PV.

Richard.



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