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Subject: Re: Nice move for the not-so-strong engines/programs

Author: Tom Likens

Date: 18:43:32 01/12/03

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On January 12, 2003 at 14:27:47, Stan Arts wrote:

>Hello!
>
>In one of the games posted by Sedat Cambaz a few days ago, between Fritz 8 and
>The King, the following position occured:
>
>[D]3r1r1k/2q3bp/3N4/p1P1n1p1/P2BPp2/5P2/4Q1PP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 1
>
>And black played, Nxf3!
>
>It's a nice move for humans, and chessprograms to the lower end of the rating
>lists. :)   (It takes 9 halfmoves to see the combination)
>
>The strong programs probably find it in a second or so..but how long do the
>not-so-strong programs take to find Nxf3 here? (never see too many search-
>results of the weaker programs posted :(  )
>
>This is what my program S-chess (v1.41) thinks of this position on my P3-550mHz
>(and thinking in the background while I am surfing on the internet)
>It finds Nxf3 on the 9th ply, and after an hour search this is what my program
>thinks:
>
>3  -237  0    1919      Bg7-f6 a8-a8
>3  -233  0    2889      Qc7-e7 a8-a8
>4  -255  0    9529      Qc7-e7 Nd6-f5 Qe7-d7 Nf5xg7
>4  -253  0    11918     Ne5-c6 Bd4xg7 Kh8xg7 Kg1-h1
>4  -252  0    24029     Qc7-d7 Nd6-f5 Rd8-c8 Nf5xg7
>4  -247  0    40933     Rd8-a8 Nd6-f5 Ra8-c8 Nf5xg7
>5  -238  1    68768     Rd8-a8 Nd6-f5 Ra8-d8 Nf5xg7 Rd8xd4
>5  -233  1    97594     Qc7-e7 Bd4-c3 Rd8-a8 Bc3xe5
>5  -211  2    130246    g5-g4 Nd6-f5 g4xf3 g2xf3 Rd8-c8
>6  -301  4    345677    g5-g4 Nd6-b5 Qc7-b8 f3xg4 Qb8-b7
>6  -249  6    514324    Rd8-a8 Nd6-f5 Bg7-f6 Qe2-d2 Ne5-c6 Bd4-b2
>6  -245  9    742263    Ne5-c6 Bd4xg7 Qc7xg7 Qe2-b5 Qg7-d7 Nd6-f5
>7  -241  21   1581640   Ne5-c6 Bd4xg7 Qc7xg7 Qe2-b5 Rd8-c8 Nd6xc8 Qg7xa1
>7  -221  26   1909602   g5-g4 f3xg4 f4-f3 Qe2-a2 Ne5xg4 Bd4xg7 Qc7xg7
>8  -298  166  11040531  g5-g4 f3xg4 f4-f3 Qe2-f2 f3xg2 Nd6-f5 Rd8-c8 Qf2xg2
>8  -247  183  12557616  Ne5-c6 Bd4xg7 Qc7xg7 Qe2-b5 Qg7-d7 Nd6-f7 Qd7xf7 Qb5xc6
>9  -219  820  58315863  Ne5-c6 Bd4-b2 Qc7-e7 Rd1-d5 Rd8-b8 Nd6-b5 Nc6-e5 Nb5-d6
>g5-g4
>9  -204  991  68947710  g5-g4 Nd6-b5 g4xf3 g2xf3 Qc7-f7 Qe2-g2 Qf7-h5 Ra1-a3
>Rd8-c8
>9  6     1157 81019201  Ne5xf3 g2xf3 Bg7xd4 Rd1xd4 Qc7xc5 Qe2-c4 Qc5xc4 Rd4xc4
>Rd8xd6
>10 -15   1413 103620606 Ne5xf3 g2xf3 Bg7xd4 Rd1xd4 Qc7xc5 Qe2-c4 Qc5xc4 Rd4xc4
>Rd8xd6 Kg1-h1
>11 6     3017 179367100 Ne5xf3 g2xf3 Bg7xd4 Rd1xd4 Qc7xc5 Qe2-c4 Qc5xc4 Rd4xc4
>Rd8xd6 Rc4-c7
>
>Stan

Hello Stan,

My engine djinn gets the following PVs after about a minute on a P4 2.2-GHz
machine (it's definitely an amateur engine, since I do this for fun and the
challenge more than anything else).  I also notice the score dropping after
the 9th ply the same as CM9000.

  2  00:00:00   2.75  1. ... Qc6 2. Ra3
  3  00:00:00   3.06  1. ... Nd7 2. Bxg7+ Kxg7 3. Nf5+ Kg6 4. Ne7+H Kh6H
                      5. c6 <HT>
  4  00:00:00   2.91  1. ... Nd7 2. Bxg7+ Kxg7 3. Qb2+ Kg6 4. Nb7
  5  00:00:00   -.--  1. ... Nxf3+!!
  5  00:00:00   0.52  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Rd1
  6  00:00:00   0.52  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qf2 Rxd6
                      5. Rxd6 Qxd6
  7  00:00:00   0.57  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qf2 Rxd6
                      5. Rxd6 Qxd6 6. Rc1
  8  00:00:00   0.69  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qc4 Qxc4
                      5. Rxc4 Rxd6 6. Rc7
  9  00:00:00   +.++  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qc4 Qxc4
                      5. Rxc4 Rxd6 6. Rc7
  9  00:00:02   2.09  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Nb5 Rxd4
                      5. Qb2 Rd8 6. Rd1 g4
 10  00:00:02   -.--  1. ... Nxf3+!!
 10  00:00:04   0.83  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qc4 Qxc4
                      5. Rxc4 Rxd6
 11  00:00:08   0.77  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qc4 Qxc4
                      5. Rxc4 Rxd6 6. Rc5 g4 7. fxg4 Rg6
 12  00:00:30   0.77  1. ... Nxf3+ 2. gxf3 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qxc5 4. Qc4 Qxc4
                      5. Rxc4 Rxd6 6. Rc5 g4 7. fxg4 Rg6 8. Rxa5

regards,
--tom



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