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Subject: Re: Junior better understanding of chess than Deep Blue

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 12:10:30 01/13/03

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On January 13, 2003 at 00:25:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 12, 2003 at 18:02:55, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2003 at 16:42:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 11, 2003 at 09:24:34, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>look to analysis from Seirawan. June 1997. they crack down deep blue everywhere
>>>from technical viewpoint. And Kasparov even more.
>>>
>>
>>Have you got a link.  The best I found was a book was $46.
>>
>>Your contention is that these errors were so gross (even though apparantly not
>>punished by the best player in history, probably) that no modern micro make
>>them?  Interesting: I am not able to judge but would be interested in seeing the
>>link.
>>
>>Frank
>
>
>When they criticize arguable the best player on the planet even _more_ than
>they criticize DB, I think you can make an intelligent guess at how accurate
>the "criticism" really is...


What I find interesting is this:

if Deep Blue was very good and did not make losing positional errors;
if Deep Blue is better, or no worse, than Junior or Fritz (ie Junior has no
magic formula to offset Deep Blue's speed advantage);
and Fritz held Kramnik; and
Junior performs well against Kasparov;

then perhaps computer chess is closer to besting mankind than I had previously
believed and we do not need a mega-monster processor to be able to do it.

Unfortunately I find Vincent's points ambiguous in this respect, since he seems
to claim that Deep Blue played crap yet Kasparov played worse - I think he might
have even implied deliberately, but I may have misunderstood him.

I guess we will see at the end of January....or not.

Frank



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