Author: Luis Smith
Date: 22:44:30 01/13/03
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On January 13, 2003 at 22:06:44, Terry McCracken wrote: >On January 13, 2003 at 19:08:23, stuart taylor wrote: > >>Let's get it over with already, (all this DB worship)! >>I'm sure we can already say that whichever comes at the top of the ssdf (When >>Deep junior/Junior 8 gets tested, and with necesary correction patches), and if >>you put that program on the best, but regular hardware, I think we can well >>assume it has gone a bit over the DB which embarrassed Kasparov. >>I think we can finally safely assume that this multi-million dollar enterprise >>which made headlines everywhere, is already exceeded with our bedroom (or living >>room) furniture. It was normally 2 years between top existing machine, and level >>of what is commercially available. This will now be a clean 6 years. >> How much more can we dream?! >> >>I think that it's safe to say that top commercial computer chess strength has >>absolutely outclassed itself atleast twice since then. We have gone from Hiarcs >>6 on 266 Mhz. to Fritz 8 on about 2.7 Ghz. I really don't think that deeper blue >>would pose any real threat today. OK, it might be very near the top, maybe >>second or third, and might stay around there for a couple more years due to its >>speed challenge. But what we have now, overall, is surely better. >>S.Taylor > >Where's your data to support your claims? >Stuart, you haven't a clue what you're talking about, and you know it...or you >should! > >Without concrete data, you're talking through your hat. > >Terry Say for instance, Fritz 5.32 and Shredder 7 played a series of games. Fritz 5.32 was on a Deep Blue's hardware and Shredder 7 had an 8xprocessor computer with each processor running at 1 ghz. Despite Shredder's increase in knowledge, I would still pick Fritz 5.32 to win simply because of the vast searching power. I myself using Fritz 7 on the playchess server have played against a Fritz 5.32 on a Dual AMD MP 2200 against my P III 1ghz, despite having a better book and newer software, he still tore me to peices... I think Deep Blue has an edge over an 8x processor commercial engine...I think you all underestimate searching power, I think Deep Blue will be well ahead of its time for even 2-5 years to come...but then again I know absolutely nothing about chess programming and am probably wrong ^_^ Reguards Luis
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