Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:03:41 01/14/03
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On January 14, 2003 at 01:09:26, Luis Smith wrote: >On January 13, 2003 at 21:51:52, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On January 13, 2003 at 14:29:51, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>Lieven, >>> >>>You are correct Sir. Nemeth's attack is an unsound one. Kasparov would ream him >>>a new "you know what" if Nemeth played like this. Hiarcs 8.0 even on my slow PII >>>333 chose g7-g6 after a couple of seconds. Mr. Nemeth appears to like blitz >>>chess in order to show his superiority over "dumb" programs. His posts are >>>amusing however. >>> >>Are you sure Fritz 8 is "dumber" HIARCS 8? I doubt it! >>>TJF >>> >>>On January 13, 2003 at 10:36:44, Lieven Clarisse wrote: >>> >>>>On January 12, 2003 at 17:19:23, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 12, 2003 at 17:15:46, Luis Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In a recent Ed Nemeth vs. Fritz game the following position occoured >>>>>> >>>>>>[D] rnbq3r/pppp1kpp/8/2b4Q/3pn3/8/PP3PPP/RNB1K1NR b KQ - 0 7 >>>>>> >>>>>>Fritz chose to play Ke6 rather than b7-b6, which seems much more sound to me. >>>>>>Is there something hidden in the b7-b6 move which contains a hidden attack for >>>>>>White that I cannot see? Or is it simply "one of those things" that computers >>>>>>do? >>>>>> >>>>>>Aristarch 4.4 and Yace 0.99.56 along with several other of the top programs >>>>>>opted for Ke6...why? >>>>>> >>>>>>Reguards >>>>>>Luis >>>>> >>>>>You mean g7-g6, and if that is played rather than Ke6, Qd5+! wins. >>>>> >>>>>Terry >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't think so, white queen cannot take knight, otherwise has to face queen >>>>loss (rook e8). >> >>Yes I see that, but White can complicate with Qd5+! The N or B can be snagged >>later without the Rel threat. >> >>But it's not easy for White to win. Maybe White can't, but in blitz even comps., >>screw up! >> >>Terry > >After forcing Fritz to play g7-g6 I tried several lines against it, all which it >defended successfully, then I pit some of the other top programs against it in >this same position...and again it seemed to end up winning. but my origional >question has not been answered...Why do computers make the choice Ke6 rather >than g7-g6? > >Reguards >Luis The reason is simply that you do not give them enough time. Try to give yace some hours. Yace can see g6 in some minutes on a fast hardware. I do not remember the exact time that it needed but it was less than 30 minutes on P850. Uri
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