Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:08:30 01/14/03
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On January 14, 2003 at 17:39:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On January 14, 2003 at 16:59:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >When did you play those 'GM's for money? I didn't. What does that have to do with anything. You said "you could kill any 1997 program/machine." I think that is baloney. What is the point with trying to dance around the issue. All you have to do is pick a time and place and prove your point. Or mine, of course... However, Bruce and I (and two others) did play in a round-robin tournament that year using a single p6/200, and all the comps finished above all the GM players, which included Christiansen, Roman, and two others I don't remember (Bruce probably will). You now saying you can only beat 1997 programs if you are paid money to do so? :) > >>On January 14, 2003 at 16:34:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2003 at 14:57:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>tatistics for Diepeveen(FM) On for: 0 Idle: 0 >>> >>> rating [need] win loss draw total best >>>Wild 1701 [6] 176 219 26 421 1961 (28-Apr-1998) >>>Loser's 1526 [6] 0 9 0 9 >>>Bughouse 1582 [6] 4 13 0 17 >>>Crazyhouse 1593 [6] 8 4 0 12 >>>Bullet 2139 [8] 766 710 79 1555 2429 (14-Jul-1998) >>>Blitz 2419 1128 1265 226 2619 2626 (09-Jan-2001) >>>Standard 2455 39 31 11 81 2471 (10-Jun-2002) >>>5-minute 2233 [4] 237 167 41 445 2305 (18-Nov-2002) >>>1-minute 1883 305 266 28 599 2145 (01-Oct-2002) >>> >>>See my standard rating at icc 2455. It's same level like current crafty. Not to >>>mention 1997. >> >>So? Did you notice my standard rating is 200 points lower than it was two weeks >>ago? Any idea why? I know. I'll explain it to you _after_ CCT5 is done. >> >>But that is not what you said. You said "I can kill any 1997 program on 1997 >>hardware." >> >>Now you start your handwaving with "hey, my ICC standard rating is higher than >>Crafty's standard rating." Never mind that you said _blitz_ games of course. >>Change >>the subject. Distort the topic. etc... >> >>I claim that is 100% baloney. >> >>I have a 1997 version of Crafty and a 1997 piece of hardware ready to take up >>the >>match should you ever decide to say "yes". You can the prove your "point" >>easily >>and with lots of witnesses. >> >>Just name the time and place. >> >> >>> >>>I play standard games at like 5 AM in the night also... ...otherwise it would be >>>2600+ :) >>> >>>After paderborn 2003 i have time perhaps again to care for your statement. >>> >>>You *only* ran on a single cpu pro200 in 1997. >> >>The pentium pro 200 was a 1995 chip. Bruce got his sometime that Summer I >>believe. I got mine a month or two later, before the end of the year. The next >>year I started looking at quads and ordered mine near the end of 1996, and it >>arrived right after the first of the year. So I have no idea what you are >>talking >>about. Crafty played its first game over the Christmas holidays in 1994, and >>in early 1995 was running on a Sparc 20 followed by a pentium 133mhz box. >>Followed by the P6/200 in late 1995 and a year and a half later a quad pentium >>pro. >>1998 was the year of the quad xeon 400, which I received in december of that >>year. I think your memory is as bad as you claim mine is... >> >>I ran on a quad pentium pro in 1997, and on a 500mhz alpha at the 1997 WMCCC >>event so your statement is _wrong_. I can easily scan the invoice for the ALR >>box >>I used. It was delivered in January of 1997. Again, you can make statements, >>but >>they have no basis in fact. >> >>Your branch target buffer stuff is a good example. Your partial-register stall >>stuff >>is another. You can say something all you want, but it doesn't make it fact. >> >> >> >>> >>>The *worldchamps* 1997 you had an alpha, my memory serves me bad here, wasn't >>>that the 500Mhz alpha 21164 from Bruce, or did Shredder ran onto that one? >>> >> >>Your memory serves you wrong. I ran on a 500mhz 21164 loaded to Jason and >>myself >>directly from DEC. We were going to use one of the three Kryo 733's but one >>came in >>broken and we were #3 on the list. >> >>I have a 21164 500mhz box here, although it is currently boxed up and ready to >>be >>shipped to the warehouse. I have my 1997 quad p6/200 still running and it is >>ready >>to play whenever you are ready. >> >>From my perspective the match is pointless. You have no chance. In 1997 there >>was no GM on ICC with a winning record against Crafty at Blitz. Nor any IM. >>So I am certain as to the outcome, but am willing to waste the time to _prove_ >>it when you are ready... >> >>I have four games you have ever won against Crafty playing as "diepeveen." This >>includes over 40 losses by you as well. So you haven't been doing nearly as >>well >>"in person" as you have been "in writing".... >> >> >> >>>>I'm still waiting. Vincent, you claimed "you could easily beat a 1997 program >>>>on 1997 >>>>hardware." I have a 1997 program and 1997 hardware waiting for you to prove >>>>that >>>>statement on. >>>> >>>>I have mentioned this more than once after you made the outrageous claim. You >>>>have >>>>_never_ responded. >>>> >>>>Is this another case of "I put my foot in my mouth, now I am going to 'go >>>>silent' and >>>>hope everyone forgets?" >>>> >>>>I don't forget that much...
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