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Subject: Re: My standard rating is already higher than current crafty (more)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:10:46 01/14/03

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On January 14, 2003 at 18:05:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:


I just went to check my quad P6/200.  I thought the sticker said 1/97.  In
reality, it said
12/97.  So my SMP stuff started in late November or December as I had SMP
running
on the dual PII box a couple of weeks prior to the quad arriving...

So that refines the date just a bit...  but that still qualifies as 1997
hardware in my book.
It _was_ here in 1997.  And it was available that Summer in fact, with a MB from
AMI,
the "Goliath".

Bob



>On January 14, 2003 at 17:50:26, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2003 at 16:59:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>>I play standard games at like 5 AM in the night also... ...otherwise it would be
>>>>2600+ :)
>>>>
>>>>After paderborn 2003 i have time perhaps again to care for your statement.
>>>>
>>>>You *only* ran on a single cpu pro200 in 1997.
>>>
>>>The pentium pro 200 was a 1995 chip.  Bruce got his sometime that Summer I
>>>believe.  I got mine a month or two later, before the end of the year.  The next
>>>year I started looking at quads and ordered mine near the end of 1996, and it
>>>arrived right after the first of the year.  So I have no idea what you are
>>>talking
>>>about.  Crafty played its first game over the Christmas holidays in 1994, and
>>>in early 1995 was running on a Sparc 20 followed by a pentium 133mhz box.
>>>Followed by the P6/200 in late 1995 and a year and a half later a quad pentium
>>>pro.
>>>1998 was the year of the quad xeon 400, which I received in december of that
>>>year.  I think your memory is as bad as you claim mine is...
>>
>>I think you may be off by a year with some of this.
>
>That is possible.
>
>>
>>>I ran on a quad pentium pro in 1997, and on a 500mhz alpha at the 1997 WMCCC
>>>event so your statement is _wrong_.  I can easily scan the invoice for the ALR
>>>box
>>>I used.  It was delivered in January of 1997.  Again, you can make statements,
>>>but
>>>they have no basis in fact.
>>
>>1995 in Hong Kong, people were running on P5/90's.  The hottest micro was a 100
>>(Fritz, I believe).
>>
>>1995 in Paderborn, the supplied machine was a P5/120, and the hottest machine
>>(Lang's) was a P5/133.
>
>That is possible.  The P6 was announced and shipped in 1995.  I fiddled with one
>but in 1995 I generally ran on the sparc and P5/133 until late that year.
>>
>>1996 in Jakarta, I believe the supplied machine was a 133, but I can't remember.
>> The 200 mhz P6's had been out for a while.  That is what I took there.  This
>>was the hottest machine at the event.
>
>I had had a P6/200 for most of that year.  Someone had another P6/200 built for
>us
>(I think it was fanning, one of Roman's friends) that we took to Jakarta as
>well...  That
>seems to fit the time-line I gave above as I definitely ran on a P6/200 in
>Jakarta and I had
>had it since the beginning of that year or right at the end of 1995...
>
>
>
>>
>>The 1997 Paris event I used an Alpha that had been cooled and overclocked to 767
>>mhz.  Crafty ran on a 500.  Shredder ran on a 533 that I brought.  The supplied
>>Intel (actually AMD, I think) machines were 233's, but 300's existed.
>
>I had a dual PII/300 late that year, for a while, while waiting on my quad
>p6/200 to
>arrive...  It was "ok".
>
>>
>>If you want a 1997 machine, you should use a single processor 533 mhz alpha, or
>>a 300 mhz Pentium II.
>
>Or my Pentium Pro quad.  It was delivered in 1997.  One thing we always do with
>every machine we buy is put a sticker on the back reflecting the month/year it
>was
>installed.  That is how I can track most of these boxes so easily, if I still
>have them
>around.  My old quad xeon and quad p6 are still here.  In fact, my original
>pentium pro
>200 is still here.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>I don't think that you were SMP in 1997, but I could be wrong.
>
>It was late 1997, as I said.  I got the first parallel version running about 3
>days
>after the loaner dual PII/300 arrived, while waiting on the quad P6/200.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Getting into specific factual arguments with Vincent is only slightly less
>>unwise than getting into arguments with Vincent over matters that cannot be
>>proven.
>>
>>bruce
>
>That I know.  :)



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