Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 07:12:12 01/15/03
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On January 15, 2003 at 09:31:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 15, 2003 at 04:59:32, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >>I think the main point of Bob is to get a "I was wrong" from Vincent Diepeveen ! >>;) > >It is more likely I will get hit by a snowball delivered from hell, I believe. >:) > >Some arguments are unanswerable. IE is DB stronger than DF. Because DB is >gone. But other arguments can easily be proven or disproven. This is one. >Because >I have the 1997 versions of Crafty and I have 1997 hardware platforms here. The >only thing "missing" is Vincent, where he finally gets a chance to "proof" >something >in a real test. > >And he disappears or changes the subject... Maybe Vincent thinks you would cheat, and substitute Crafty on a supercomputer. Bob D. > >Maybe one day I will explain to him why the "smaller" BTB on the PIV is actually >far better than a larger one that doesn't use the new algorithm. But I'll wait >a while. > >Matt's already explained why 8 bit instructions are not always bad to use on a >PIV. > >Crafty will be quite happy to demonstrate why making outrageous statements can >sometimes >lead to outrageous embarassment. :) > > > > >> >>On January 14, 2003 at 21:57:16, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2003 at 21:04:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On January 14, 2003 at 16:04:28, John Merlino wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 14, 2003 at 15:28:37, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 14, 2003 at 15:03:09, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 14, 2003 at 14:57:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm still waiting. Vincent, you claimed "you could easily beat a 1997 program >>>>>>>>on 1997 >>>>>>>>hardware." I have a 1997 program and 1997 hardware waiting for you to prove >>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>statement on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have mentioned this more than once after you made the outrageous claim. You >>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>>_never_ responded. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is this another case of "I put my foot in my mouth, now I am going to 'go >>>>>>>>silent' and >>>>>>>>hope everyone forgets?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I don't forget that much... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Damn it Hyatt let it be. Why does it bother you ? You are not half the player he >>>>>>>is and I believe he can do it. Crafty is not a good blitzer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>Wayne >>>>>> >>>>>>Pffff, sissy. Come on Vincent, the whole CCC (except for some sissies) is >>>>>>waiting! >>>>>> >>>>>>Bas. >>>>> >>>>>...and other people who couldn't care less, I imagine.... like myself.... >>>>> >>>>>jm >>>> >>>> >>>>I would guess you mean "you are more interested in seeing a computer play >>>>against a GM rather than seeing a computer thrash a loudmouth"??? >>>> >>>>:) >>> >>>Uh, well, more or less.... >>> >>>And, after all, Vincent isn't even an IM (and states in his finger notes that >>>his goal is to be an IM by 2005!). That's certainly better than I am, but it >>>almost certainly isn't able to compete against ANY comp in blitz. PERHAPS even a >>>comp running on 5-6 year old hardware, assuming the human in question doesn't >>>get a lot of time to prepare against the opponent.... >>> >>>But what would the contest prove (to the community at large) anyway? If Crafty >>>wins, all it did was beat an FM at blitz. If Vincent wins, all he did was win >>>against a non-commercial program running on 6 year old hardware. >>> >>>Sounds to me like it isn't really worth the hassle any more. But it also sounds >>>like, as time goes on, Vincent has a better chance of winning.... >>> >>>jm
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