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Subject: Re: The Diepeveen Challenge

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:47:26 01/15/03

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On January 15, 2003 at 12:24:38, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 15, 2003 at 12:01:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>
>>>I had the impression that Vincent lives in Europe.  Surely, he would not travel
>>>all the way to Birmingham, Alabama, USA, just for a few games.  [Besides, you
>>>might use your Black Belt against him!  You might lose your cool and deck him!
>>>Seems likely to me. : ) ]  That implies that the game would have to be played on
>>>the Internet or on a chess server such as an ICC server.
>>>
>>>Under those circumstances, Vincent would have no way to confirm that the
>>>computer he was playing against were "as advertised."  To make your challenge
>>>viable, it is necessary to find a way around this problem.  Then if Vincent
>>>refuses, he is clearly BAD!
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>Sure he could tell.  He would know the version I am using.  He could download
>>that from my ftp site.  He would know the hardware I am supposed to be using.
>>He can play over the game to verify that his copy of Crafty on his hardware
>>would play the same moves.  Others "watching/observing" would see crafty's
>>scores and analysis, and they could do an even better job of checking to see
>>if all is well, because they could _also_ download the program to see if it
>>matches.
>>
>>It would be impossible to cheat with a program everyone has a copy of.
>>absolutely impossible.
>
>Incidentally, there is another side to this coin, as you mentioned.  How would
>YOU know Vincent was playing by himself?  He could have a dozen top anti-Hyatt
>GMs [ : ) ] right there beside him, suggesting anti-Crafty moves!  I see no
>sure-fire perfect solution other than playing in person, with all present.  You
>need to turn in a travel request at work!  : )

at 5 0 or 5 3 I wouldn't worry too much about outside help.

at longer time controls, it would/could be a problem.

>
>Maybe if the two of you were to meet face to face, you might discover that you
>actually liked each other!  Wouldn't that be something?

Would that be about the same time I discovered pigs could fly?  :)




>
>Bob D.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You could consider taking your computer to him.  : )
>>
>>No.  I suspect I would become frustrated enough that the place where I
>>end up sticking my computer would make it not very attractive for me to
>>have to take it back to my office again.  :)
>
>I guess there would have to be a few bodyguards present.
>
>Bob D.
>
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