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Subject: Re: The Diepeveen Challenge

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 15:03:12 01/15/03

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On January 15, 2003 at 14:50:28, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On January 15, 2003 at 11:09:43, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2003 at 10:14:25, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>Sorry, but this is rather insulting to Bob if you put Vincent on his level.
>>>Unfortunately you cloud the the whole question. In this case it's solely about
>>>science and logic. Now you judge that they both violate the basics. Does science
>>>and also logic have no meaning to you, no special value? I can't see where you
>>>discovered the "weak" point in Bob here.
>>>
>>>Rolf Tueschen
>>
>>Did science and logic produce a chess engine?
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>Bob the Second, what would you think "what" did it? Just human "will"? Methinks
>you are confusing it with the question if someone should have studied computer
>sciences to be able to program a World Champion. That of course is nonsense. I
>think that Frans is no academic and neither Richard was. But that doesn't
>matter. The basics of computer chess have been found by academics. And not too
>low estimated academics. Another question is if you could well use logic and a
>technique that was created by academics, even if you were no academic. Well,
>also this question is moote. Of course you can. But - and that is a single
>caveat: if you talk like V., and when it's wrong, you might accept that some
>expert gives you a correction. What is wrong with that?
>
>Kind regards,
>Rolf Tueschen

Well, I enjoy the fruits of the labors of others.  Things like electricity and
chess engines, for example.  But my gut feel is that it is going too far to
start worshiping science and logic.  As far as logic is concerned, "logical
conclusions" are only as good as the unproven assumptions and the validity of
the "logical" steps.  Many a "logical argument" has been shot down on this
basis.  This is not to suggest that your logical arguments are flawed, however.
Nothing personal.  It's just a general observation.

: )

Bob D.

Bob D.



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