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Subject: Re: Confusing scientific corrections with personal bashing/ad hominems

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 15:42:12 01/15/03

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On January 15, 2003 at 17:46:13, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 15, 2003 at 14:34:23, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2003 at 12:40:58, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2003 at 12:05:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2003 at 11:42:59, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 15, 2003 at 02:36:52, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 15, 2003 at 00:38:17, George Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wow he beats the Micro's anytime he wants to! Once even played 5 computer
>>>>>>>simultaneously and won all five game and was blindfolded!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Where is the content here, or are you just smashing Vincent?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It's inappropriate IMO. I also felt this way about:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://Daft:zmeup@www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?277105
>>>>>
>>>>>While disguised as OT, clearly its intent was to embarass Vince.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's intent was _not_ to embarass anyone.  It was intended to verify
>>>>a specific claim made by vincent.  It certainly is related to computer
>>>>chess since Crafty is a computer chess program.  Vincent made the claim
>>>>here more than once and I challenged him on it.  If it isn't on topic,
>>>>then none of the GM vs computer matches have been "on topic" either, nor
>>>>has discussing similar things...
>>>>
>>>>If vincent is "embarassed" he has only himself to blame.  _he_ made the
>>>>ridiculous claim...  I just challenged him on it since it is one of the
>>>>few times where an outrageous claim by him can be directly proven false
>>>>by simply playing some games on a chess server.
>>>
>>>
>>>If the claim was "ridiculous" as you say, then there was no good reason for your
>>>"challenge." You would have done better by just ignoring it and letting it die a
>>>quiet death.
>>>
>>>I think pretending you don't have an axe to grind with Vince will be convincing
>>>to very few here.
>>
>>Ricardo,
>>you might be a great computerchess expert and I'm not, but here in the actual
>>discussion you simply miss the main point. Excuse me, that is simply a fact. Let
>>me try to explain. First of all, I think that a few here show Vincent, that they
>>like him above all his faults - this is a good thing and very sympathetic.
>>But the fault of all you who think they should defend Vincent is simply, that it
>>brings you into opposition with science and logic. What do you expect here, that
>>hundreds of readers, certainly a silent majority, should read without
>>contradiction what Vincent had to say about whatever? How could laymen decide
>>when Vincent is wrong and when he's right?
>
><snip>
>
>When the time comes that bulletins are deleted by the moderators for technical
>inaccuracy, this bulletin board will have gone to the dogs.
>
>Bob D.

Objection: Nothing is deleted and nobody is deleted! (Short enough the message?)

Rolf Tueschen



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