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Subject: Re: do we know WAC.230 is accurate? [likely, WAC.230 is dead]

Author: scott farrell

Date: 16:24:55 01/15/03

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On January 15, 2003 at 16:39:42, Dann Corbit wrote:

If only I had a few fast computer to test positions like this overnight, with
and without my blockade detection ... :-

That is a great analysis to compare to.

Thanks again
Scott

>On January 15, 2003 at 00:08:12, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2003 at 22:05:34, scott farrell wrote:
>>
>>>Do we know that if you play Rb4, that white has to take the sac?
>>>
>>>If white doesnt have to take the Rook sac, then maybe there is no solution to
>>>wac.230.
>>>
>>>BTW: a few more minutes of thinking, and lots more fail lows, and the score has
>>>dropped below 1.0. It likes Rb5 and Rh7 equally. I think both moves are equally
>>>dumb.
>>>
>>>ply 10=2.53
>>>ply 11=2.35
>>>ply 12=0.88
>>>ply 13 partial=0.64 (still thinking at this ply)
>>>
>>>The branching factor goes out the wazzooo as it starts detecting blockades, the
>>>branching factor is around 11 now at ply 12, as a good move previously now shows
>>>a draw, everything shows a draw, basically it is breaking down
>>>null-move,alha-beta, everything, down to a straight brute force look at every
>>>move.
>>>
>>>Thinking more on your ideas on what to do on detecting lots of blockades. I
>>>might experiment with turing things off like : nullmove, pruning, reductions, or
>>>say moving null move to R=1 (I use R=2 normally).
>>
>>It is not known if it is accurate.  It is known that the key move is the only
>>move with winning chances and at worst it draws.
>>
>>Here is the game it actually occurred in:
>>
>>[Event "?"]
>>[Site "Bad Niendorf"]
>>[Date "1927.??.??"]
>>[Round "6"]
>>[White "Kmoch, Hans"]
>>[Black "Nimzowitsch, Aron I"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "C15p"]
>>
>>1.e4 Nc6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Bb4 4.Ne2 d5 5.e5 h5 6.Nf4 g6 7.Be3 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Na5 9.
>>Bd3 Ne7 10.Nh3 c5 11.Bg5 c4 12.Be2 Nac6 13.Bf6 Rg8 14.O-O Qa5 15.Qd2 Nf5 16.
>>Rfd1 Kd



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