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Subject: Re: Intel Xeon information

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:29:34 01/15/03

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On January 15, 2003 at 19:04:36, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On January 15, 2003 at 18:14:50, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2003 at 17:43:47, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2003 at 15:21:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2003 at 12:56:07, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Robert,
>>>>>         I must have missed this in your earlier discussion, but how much
>>>>>speedup are you getting on this Xeon? Did you replace your older ones with the
>>>>>new ones already?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>pavs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I simply replaced my quad 700 with a dual 2.8.  It is somewhere around 2x
>>>>faster,
>>>>overall...
>>>
>>>
>>Therefore, the 8x 1000 Mhz used vs Kramnik is roughly almost the same speed as
>>the newer dual Xeon 2.8 Ghz.
>>
>>PS: I'm NOT comparing these two systems Mhz Per Mhz since 8x1000 = 8000 Ghz,
>>whereas 2 x 2.8 = 5.6 Ghz, but the performance difference should be roughly
>>equal using the Newer Dual Xeon 2.8/533.
>>
>>Pichard
>
>
>I highly doubt that. You seem to be forgetting that the P3's are faster MHz for
>MHz than the Pentium 4 chips. It roughly takes a P4-1.6GHz to equal one P3-1GHz.

That isn't true in my case.  My quad xeon 700 was a PIII-based xeon
box.  My dual 2.8 is almost exactly twice as fast, which is what the
clocks say should happen.



>
>Also, about the "400/533mhz" bus business, it's not actually 400mhz or 533mhz.
>It's just quad pumped (four data transfers per cycle). Thus a "400MHz" p4 bus is
>actually 100MHz and a "533" is 133. Same goes for DDR (double pumped, two
>transfers per cycle). I prefer DDR over RDRAM. DDR is much more efficient
>(actually does what it's rated for). The PC1066 RDRAM only pulls around 3.2gb/s
>actual but 240MHz(480) DDR hits 3.7gb/s easily (on an Nforce2 board). ;)

If you think about it, does it matter?  1 transfer 400M times a second, or
4 transfers 100M times a second?  It is simply semantics, not practical speed.

BTW my xeon box (2.8 x 2) is DDR ram, not rambus...  I'm not a fan of rambus
at all except for certain kinds of streaming memory applications...




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