Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 23:39:42 01/15/03
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On January 16, 2003 at 02:19:01, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 16, 2003 at 01:22:17, Nathan Thom wrote: > >>On January 16, 2003 at 01:11:44, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On January 16, 2003 at 00:15:24, Nathan Thom wrote: >>> >>>>Im an amateur chess player (around 1300), but love to program interesting >>>>problems. It seems that most of the programmers here are all very highly rated >>>>chess players. Most chess programs beat me easily, so I thought it would be >>>>interesting to see if I could write a program that could beat me aswell. >>>> >>>>In peoples opinion, will it be hard for me to write a program that can play very >>>>well (say 1800+) even if it only uses my basic knowledge of chess? >>> >>> >>>Basic knowledge is more than enought to get 1800++ >>>piece square table evaluation+alphabeta+check extensions is more than enough for >>>your purpose(you even do not need hash tables and null move pruning if your >>>target is only 1800++ and tscp is already at that level). >>> >>>Uri >> >>I guess im also concerned that after some point, Im not going to be able to >>improve it because I cant tell whether its new move is better than its old move! >>ill have to use another good program to evaluate its move. > >It will take a long time before you get to the point that you feel that you are >not able to improve it. > >There are a lot of possible improvements that is not about evaluation > >1)Search improvement(better order of moves or better pruning and extension rules >or better use of hash tables) >2)Speed improvements(do the same thing faster) > >You can use tactical test suites for testing improvements > >Uri Uri, I bet that you were happy when you found out that Movei was able to beat you 55% of the time using your Duron 950 Mhz. Your biggest satisfation will be when Movei can beat you 90% of the times or reach at least a 2600 Elo on the SSDF, but you won't stop improving your program until Movei becomes one of the best five program on the SSDF. That might take another 6 years, but your addiction to improve Movei will become very hard to get away from. I don't know how Mr. Schroeder was able to break away from this addiction. Well sometimes professional programmers get dissatisfied when a new free program like Ruffian accomplish such a high status when it is just a fresh release, capable of beating your creation. Pichard Pichard
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