Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:18:02 01/16/03
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On January 16, 2003 at 02:39:42, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On January 16, 2003 at 02:19:01, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 16, 2003 at 01:22:17, Nathan Thom wrote: >> >>>On January 16, 2003 at 01:11:44, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On January 16, 2003 at 00:15:24, Nathan Thom wrote: >>>> >>>>>Im an amateur chess player (around 1300), but love to program interesting >>>>>problems. It seems that most of the programmers here are all very highly rated >>>>>chess players. Most chess programs beat me easily, so I thought it would be >>>>>interesting to see if I could write a program that could beat me aswell. >>>>> >>>>>In peoples opinion, will it be hard for me to write a program that can play very >>>>>well (say 1800+) even if it only uses my basic knowledge of chess? >>>> >>>> >>>>Basic knowledge is more than enought to get 1800++ >>>>piece square table evaluation+alphabeta+check extensions is more than enough for >>>>your purpose(you even do not need hash tables and null move pruning if your >>>>target is only 1800++ and tscp is already at that level). >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I guess im also concerned that after some point, Im not going to be able to >>>improve it because I cant tell whether its new move is better than its old move! >>>ill have to use another good program to evaluate its move. >> >>It will take a long time before you get to the point that you feel that you are >>not able to improve it. >> >>There are a lot of possible improvements that is not about evaluation >> >>1)Search improvement(better order of moves or better pruning and extension rules >>or better use of hash tables) >>2)Speed improvements(do the same thing faster) >> >>You can use tactical test suites for testing improvements >> >>Uri > >Uri, I bet that you were happy when you found out that Movei was able to beat >you 55% of the time using your Duron 950 Mhz. Your biggest satisfation will be >when Movei can beat you 90% of the times or reach at least a 2600 Elo on the >SSDF, but you won't stop improving your program until Movei becomes one of the >best five program on the SSDF. That might take another 6 years, but your >addiction to improve Movei will become very hard to get away from. I don't know >how Mr. Schroeder was able to break away from this addiction. Well sometimes >professional programmers get dissatisfied when a new free program like Ruffian >accomplish such a high status when it is just a fresh release, capable of >beating your creation. > >Pichard I did not play against Movei so I did not find that it can beat me x%of the times. I also has not duron 950 Mhz a I used slightly different hardware (850 or 1000Mhz) Uri
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