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Subject: Re: Is this really a dead draw? No. It's a win for black.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 23:20:16 01/16/03

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On January 17, 2003 at 01:54:10, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 16, 2003 at 23:47:33, Eric Tom wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>In the following position, NCO proclaims that this is a draw.  Can any chess
>>engines prove otherwise?  I'm just curious if there's anyway at all Black can
>>win.  NCO's continuation is as follows 20 Ng4 bxc3 21 Rh3 f5 22 Nf6 h6 23 Qxh6+
>>Bxh6 24 Rxh6+ Kg7 25 Rh7+ Kf8 followed by perpetual checking.  Sorry, I do not
>>know how to post the board in this message.
>
>From here:
>[D]r1r2b1k/1bq2p1p/p1npp1pN/2nB2P1/1p2P2Q/2N1B1R1/PPP2P1P/2KR4 w - - ce -160;
>acd 13; acs 180; pv Bxc5 dxc5 Bxc6 Bxc6 Ne2 Bb5 Rd2 c4 Rf3 Be8 Qf4 c3 bxc3 Qxf4
>Nxf4 bxc3;|Be3c5
>{Bxc5 chosen instead of Ng4}
>
>[D]r1r2b1k/1bq2p1p/p1npp1p1/2nB2P1/1p2P1NQ/2N1B1R1/PPP2P1P/2KR4 b - - ce 494;
>acd 12; acs 180; pv bxc3 Nf6 h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Bxe6 Qb6 Bb3 c4 Nd7 cxb2+ Kxb2 Bg7+
>Kb1 Qb4;|bc3
>{bxc3 chosen and played}
>
>[D]r1r2b1k/1bq2p1p/p1npp1p1/2nB2P1/4P1NQ/2p1B1R1/PPP2P1P/2KR4 w - - ce -448; acd
>11; acs 180; pv Nf6 h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Bxe6 Qb6 Rxc3 fxe6 Rd7 Rc7 Nxh5 Bh6 Rxc7 Qxc7
>gxh6 gxh5 Qxh5;|Ng4f6
>{Nf6 chosen instead of Rh3}
>
>[D]r1r2b1k/1bq2p1p/p1npp1p1/2nB2P1/4P1NQ/2p1B2R/PPP2P1P/2KR4 b - - ce 510; acd
>12; acs 180; pv h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Nf6 cxb2+ Kb1 Bg7 Bxe6 Bxf6 Bxc8 Bxc8 gxf6 Bxh3
>Qxh3 Rb8;|h5
>{h5 chosen (HUGE advantage) instead of f5.  Is f5 a collosal blunder?}

h5 holds a full piece advantage.  f5 is Ruffian's *5th* choice.

E:\programme\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 300M -T e:\dead.epd -t 999 -p 99
Hash size 314572800
Ruffian 1.0.1
feature done=0
Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
Logfile: Thu Jan 16 23:02:59 2003
Total hash size 300M
Initializing tablebases: /programme/winboard/nalimov
Testing e:\dead.epd, 999 seconds, extra ply 99
Testing: test 1   Solution: cxb2+
  r1r2b1k/1bq2p1p/p1npp1p1/2nB2P1/4P1NQ/2p1B2R/PPP2P1P/2KR4 b - -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   7/21   1.64   4.61    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 Be7 Qg3 Na4+ Kb3 exd5 exd5
                         Nb4 Kxa4
   7-->   1.95   4.61    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 Be7 Qg3 Na4+ Kb3 exd5 exd5
                         Nb4 Kxa4
   8/24   3.78   4.62    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 Be7 Bg5 exd5 Bf6+ Kh7 exd5
                         Qb6+ Ka1 Bxf6+ Qxf6
   8-->   4.92   4.62    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 Be7 Bg5 exd5 Bf6+ Kh7 exd5
                         Qb6+ Ka1 Bxf6+ Qxf6
   9/31  11.40   4.52    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 exd5 Bxc5 Be7 Qg3 dxe4 Bxd6
                         Qd7
   9-->  14.45   4.52    ... cxb2+ Kxb2 h5 gxh6 exd5 Bxc5 Be7 Qg3 dxe4 Bxd6
                         Qd7
  10/31  23.48     ++    ... cxb2+
  10/33   1:16     --    ... cxb2+
  10/33   1:26   3.17    ... cxb2+ Kb1 h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Nf6 Bg7 Nxh5 gxh5 Qxh5+
                         Kg8 Qh7+ Kf8 Bxe6 Rd8 Bd5
  10/33   1:46   x.xx    ... h5
  10/33   1:55   3.64    ... h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Nf6 Qb6 bxc3 Qa5 Nxh5 Qa3+ Kb1 exd5
                         Nf6+ Kg7 exd5
  10-->   2:01   3.64    ... h5 Bxc5 dxc5 Nf6 Qb6 bxc3 Qa5 Nxh5 Qa3+ Kb1 exd5
                         Nf6+ Kg7 exd5
  11/33   3:02   3.66    ... h5 Nf6 Bg7 Kb1 Ne5 Bxc5 exd5 Bxd6 Qb6 Ba3 cxb2
                         exd5
  11-->   4:03   3.66    ... h5 Nf6 Bg7 Kb1 Ne5 Bxc5 exd5 Bxd6 Qb6 Ba3 cxb2
                         exd5
  12/35   5:30   3.50    ... h5 Nf6 Bg7 Bxc5 dxc5 Nxh5 gxh5 Bxe6 cxb2+ Kb1
                         Rd8 Qxh5+ Kg8 Qh7+ Kf8
  12-->   8:34   3.50    ... h5 Nf6 Bg7 Bxc5 dxc5 Nxh5 gxh5 Bxe6 cxb2+ Kb1
                         Rd8 Qxh5+ Kg8 Qh7+ Kf8
  13/38  11:59   3.37    ... h5 Nf6 Bg7 bxc3 Qa5 Qxh5+ gxh5 Rxh5+ Bh6 Rxh6+
                         Kg7 Rh7+ Kf8 g6 Ne5 Bxc5 dxc5 g7+ Ke7 Bxb7 Qa3+ Kb1
                         Kxf6 Bxa8 Rxa8
  13...  14:52   5/37    f5



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