Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:37:18 01/19/03
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On January 19, 2003 at 11:23:06, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>On January 19, 2003 at 11:07:27, mike schoonover wrote:
>
>>crafty holds a very tuff position.good work prof. hyatt.
>>
>>
>>
>>[Event "ICS Unrated Standard match"]
>>[Site "chessclub.com"]
>>[Date "2003.01.19"]
>>[Round "-"]
>>[White "crafty"]
>>[Black "SearcherX"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[WhiteElo "2554"]
>>[BlackElo "2528"]
>>[TimeControl "2700+10"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Ne2 d5 6. a3 Be7 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
>>g3 c6 9. Bg2 Na6 10. O-O Nc7 11. h3 Bd7 12. Nf4 Qc8 13. h4 Bd6 14. Re1 Re8
>>15. Bd2 Bxf4 16. exf4 Bh3 17. Rxe8+ Ncxe8 18. Bf3 Bg4 19. Bxg4 Nxg4 20. Qe2
>>Nd6 21. Re1 Nf6 22. Nd1 a5 23. f3 c5 24. dxc5 Qxc5+ 25. Qf2 d4 26. Bc3 Nf5
>>27. Re5 Qc8 28. Bxa5 Qc1 29. Qd2 Qb1 30. Kh2 Rc8 31. Nf2 Rc2 32. Qe1 Qxe1
>>33. Bxe1 Ne3 34. Kh3 h5 35. g4 Rxb2 36. gxh5 Nfd5 37. Ne4 Nxf4+ 38. Kg3
>>Ne2+ 39. Kf2 f6 40. Re8+ Kh7 41. Bd2 Nf4 42. a4 Nc4 43. Ke1 Ng2+ 44. Ke2
>>Ra2 45. Rd8 Nf4+ 46. Ke1 Nxd2 47. Nxd2 Ra1+ 48. Kf2 Rxa4 49. Nb3 Ra2+ 50.
>>Ke1 d3 51. Rd4 Ng2+ 52. Kd1 Ne3+ 53. Kc1 Rc2+ 54. Kb1 Rc3 55. Nc1 Nf5 56.
>>Rd7 d2 57. Ne2 Rxf3 58. Kc2 Rf2 59. Kxd2 Ng3 60. Ke3 Rxe2+ 61. Kf3 b5 62.
>>Kxg3 Re4 63. Rd8 Rc4 64. Rb8 b4 65. Re8 Rc5 66. Rb8 Rc4 67. Rb7 Kh6 68. Rb5
>>Re4 69. Kh3 Rd4 70. Kg3 Re4 71. Rb7 Rd4 72. Rb5 Rc4 73. Kh3 Re4 74. Kg3 Rd4
>>75. Kh3 Kh7 76. Rb8 Rc4 77. Kg3 Rc3+ 78. Kg4 Rc4+ 79. Kh3 Re4 80. Kg3 Rd4
>>81. Kh3 Rd3+ 82. Kg4 b3 83. Kf4 Rc3 84. Kg4 Rd3 85. Kf4 Rc3 86. Kg4 Re3 87.
>>Kf4 Rh3 88. Kg4 Rc3 89. Kf4 Rd3 90. Kg4 Re3 91. Rb4 Kg8 92. Kf5 Rf3+ 93.
>>Kg6 Rg3+ 94. Kf5 Kf7 95. Rb7+ Kf8 96. Ke6 Re3+ 97. Kf5 Rg3 98. Ke6 Re3+ 99.
>>Kf5 Rf3+ 100. Kg6 Rg3+ 101. Kf5 Rf3+ 102. Kg6 Rg3+ 103. Kf5 Re3 104. Kg6 f5
>>105. Kxf5 Rg3 106. Kf4 Rd3 107. Kg5 Rg3+ 108. Kf4 Rd3 109. Kg5 Rc3 110. Kf5
>>Re3 111. Kf4 Rc3 112. Kf5 Rf3+ 113. Kg4 Re3 114. Kf4 Rd3
>>{Game drawn by repetition} 1/2-1/2
>>
>>regards
>>mike
>
>Could someone with experience explain this game? I mean when I entered the game
>it was objectively lost, chess, but Crafty always had a large time advantage.
>The score often danced around -2.7 etc. What I want to know is this. Is it for
>the programmers clear that the machines are still way too weak to win such an
>endgame advantage? Was it therefore clear ong before that this was a typical
>draw OR was it really a sensational game by Crafty to draw it in such a
>position? Any comments?
>
I think you are misunderstanding the game. Just because crafty said "-2.7"
doesn't mean black was winning. It just means that Crafty didn't quite
understand the position itself. IM Schroer had said that this was a draw
for a good while. It just took crafty a long time to see the eval climb
back to 0.00, because it didn't understand that the position with the white
rook behind the black pawn, with the kingside 2 vs 2 was simply a draw.
>The Ferret game went the other way round. After it survived a terrible King
>attack it looked to me that Ferret had at least counterchances with his pawn on
>the queen side. Even when White had opened his King position with f4/g4 Black
>must sek chances on the first ranks. With N and Q this is possible. How you
>would judge that game? Was it a typical computer game, just odd, or was it
>something special and why?
>
>You see, I have asked my questions sure on a chess base but I wished to hear how
>real CC experts saw these two games.
>
>Unfortunately I didn't have the time to obs the rest of the games because Wijk
>was also interesting.
>
>A technical aspect: could someone say if ICC uses less PC ressources than
>playchess.com? I had the impression that the multitasked view on several boards
>eeded less than in the ChessBase server and that is why there the PC system
>often breaks down even if you try the second game in parallel. Of course there
>you can also open an engine for analysis. Last: I couldn't get +ch64 working!
>What was my fault?
>
>Rolf Tueschen
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