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Subject: Re: To Christophe Theron about CT interface in unix.

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 11:13:58 01/19/03

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On January 19, 2003 at 00:08:19, ERIQ wrote:

>On January 18, 2003 at 13:42:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2003 at 09:52:07, ERIQ wrote:
>>
>>>Is it possible to work out something w/ Felipe Bergo the developer of eboard.
>>>eboard is the best looking interface available to unix IMHO and Mr. Bergo seems
>>>to be a reasonable person. It would seem that both of you have something to
>>>gain. His handle on FICS is "pulga".
>>>
>>>I think that if his interface was uci capable and your engine would work
>>>flawlessly within it, Maybe this would be a great commercial product and perhaps
>>>the start of something (ie. other engine developers might make ports)
>>>
>>>I would most certainly play $100.00 us for it. I payed more than that for a dos
>>>rebel 8,9 and I think the graphics are better in eboard!! infact I like it
>>>better than chesspartners interface it just doesn't have all the features yet
>>>but w/ some help who knows ( hint, hint ).
>>>
>>>I wish you all the success.
>>>
>>> Sign,
>>>    Eriq
>>
>>
>>
>>I think we might work out something in the future if he agrees, but it's maybe
>>too early to start something.
>>
>>At this time I'm still learning Linux and try to make it my every day desktop.
>>For example I have just transferred all my "Favorites" URLs from IE6 (Windows)
>>to Mozilla (Linux) and I'm writing this message under Mozilla.
>>
>>When I finish moving to Linux I will start porting Chess Tiger to Linux, which
>>might take some time (not too long I hope because the code has been written to
>>be portable and has already been ported to another platform which was more
>>different of Windows than Linux is).
>>
>>Then Linux will be my main developpement platform, so the Linux version of Chess
>>Tiger will probably be always the most up to date.
>>
>>When this happens I will post an announcement here and if you want we will
>>discuss the interfacing possibilities.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>linux is not bad, I started learning about unix first w/ linux and now have
>moved to freebsd not much different as gnu stuff is gnu stuff. Well anyway I
>know it won't take you long to figure it out, so good luck.



Actually it took me some time to figure some things out, for 2 reasons:

1) I have started a few months ago with a small distro (small in size: 200Mb)
called Peanut Linux. While Peanut is a great distro, it's not ideal for Linux
newbies like me. It provides a lot of basic functionnalities like a very good
GUI, Internet and email and Office replacement, but I had to add myself some
components (amongst other things programming tools). And when you add components
that have not been made specifically for the distro you are using, sometimes it
does not work perfectly. So you need to know more about Linux than a newbie and
you run into small problems. These problems add up and in the end it gets on
your nerves. I can tell that I have learned a lot by using Peanut (well I was
forced to), but RedHat was much easier to use because all the components I
needed were already there or could be installed very easily. And they were all
working fine with each other (that's what RedHat has been working on for so
long).

2) I have to know much more about the system than the typical user, because I'm
going to write software for it. So I had to learn things that most users do not
even care to know.

I think a good distro like RedHat is almost ready for the average desktop user.
It provides all the functions you need for everyday use: superb GUI (much better
looking than Windows, and much more customizable). A replacement for Microsoft
Office: if you know how to use MS Office, then you will feel at home with RedHat
8. You have a replacement for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and a few others. They
look almost exactly the same as the Microsoft ones. Internet tools: you have the
choice between 2 browsers (Mozilla is almost as good as IE6) and 2 email
programs (Kmail, simple and efficient, and Evolution which is an Outlook clone).
Audio and video: RedHat 8 provides an audio media player, but you will have to
download a small plugin to read MP3 files (RedHat wanted to avoid any copyright
issues with MP3 and decided to not include the MP3 plugin in their distro). The
same problem exists for video formats, so if you want to read videos you need to
download XINE and RealPlayer.

My standard test to answer the question "is Linux ready for the desktop" is to
install it on my mother's computer and see if she can do all the tasks she knows
how to do under Windows without too much trouble. I have not tried this test
yet, but I think Linux RedHat 8 would pass the test. I would just have to be
around so I can answer her questions.

Configuring Linux is slightly more difficult than configuring Windows, but
anyway this is never done by the average user. It must be done by a qualified
technician (and it has be done at the factory for preinstalled PCs). So Linux
currently just puts a little more pressure on qualified technicians at the time
of install. But it's just at install time. When the system is configured and
running, it is rock solid, which is not the case at all with Windows!




>linux I think is a better desktop than freebsd but try to still make freebsd
>native binary as their are plenty of nerds that prefer bsd's in general. It
>should not be to hard as it's just a slight change in the makefile for crafty.



I will consider trying to be compatible with FreeBSD, especially because FreeBSD
is the basic layer of MacOS X.




> I
>will continue to make suggestions for new features in eboard to pulga and
>hopefully by the time you are ready, eboard will be too.



OK.



    Christophe



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