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Subject: Re: Looks like it might be a 3 way ftie for first

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 06:37:51 01/20/03

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On January 20, 2003 at 09:13:29, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On January 20, 2003 at 08:50:51, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On January 19, 2003 at 23:00:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>However, an engine can be tuned for blitz or tuned for longer games.  Is it
>>>fair to have the engine play the main games at a slow time control, then when
>>>a couple tie, to use a totally different time control?  Does that _really_ show
>>>which of the two should have won the tournament???
>>
>>Was it really known in advance that in case of a tie-break, you had to go into
>>different time modes? If not, then this is surely a flaw in the 5th tournament.
>>Also it might well be that progs had different conditions in that respect. I do
>>not think about Crafty alone but also about Yace. It looked as if that mode in
>>the end was completely against its former performance. Also Crafty beat Ruffian
>>before and suddenly in Blitz Ruffian should beat all? Something smells fishy a
>>bit. BTW who decided the conditions in the end? Volker alone?
>>
>>It's perhaps necessary to declare here that human players might well have
>>disadvantages in different amounts if it comes to a change of time schedules but
>>at least - it is said - humans have the inborn talent to adapt to the new
>>conditions. However, if it was not even known in advance, the programmers had no
>>chance to instruct their progs to adapt on unclear events. I thought that this
>>was common sense in CC...
>
>It was all decided in advance, Volker didn't improvise anything at the last
>minute. There was plenty time to debate and change the rules _before_ the event.
>
>Whether Hyatt is right or wrong is moot now, it's over and done with, Ruffian
>won, _period_.
>
>We can debate the rules next time :)

That shouldn't be the motto of CCC for sure. But you are right with the
conditions, I didn't know that until just a few minutes ago when I read it and I
already excused myself for that one. I fear that Bob or Bruce didn't even think
that they could be that strong and so they didn't spend too much thought on that
matter, the tie-break. BTW we had the same procedure in Masstricht. I am sure
that SHREDDER would be Wch and not JUNIOR if it wouldn't have been in Blitz at
the end.

Rolf Tueschen


>
>-S.
>
>>Rolf Tueschen



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