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Subject: Re: To Christophe Theron about CT interface in unix.

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 10:30:22 01/20/03

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On January 19, 2003 at 14:13:58, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 19, 2003 at 00:08:19, ERIQ wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2003 at 13:42:50, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 18, 2003 at 09:52:07, ERIQ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is it possible to work out something w/ Felipe Bergo the developer of eboard.
>>>>eboard is the best looking interface available to unix IMHO and Mr. Bergo seems
>>>>to be a reasonable person. It would seem that both of you have something to
>>>>gain. His handle on FICS is "pulga".
>>>>
>>>>I think that if his interface was uci capable and your engine would work
>>>>flawlessly within it, Maybe this would be a great commercial product and perhaps
>>>>the start of something (ie. other engine developers might make ports)
>>>>
>>>>I would most certainly play $100.00 us for it. I payed more than that for a dos
>>>>rebel 8,9 and I think the graphics are better in eboard!! infact I like it
>>>>better than chesspartners interface it just doesn't have all the features yet
>>>>but w/ some help who knows ( hint, hint ).
>>>>
>>>>I wish you all the success.
>>>>
>>>> Sign,
>>>>    Eriq
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think we might work out something in the future if he agrees, but it's maybe
>>>too early to start something.
>>>
>>>At this time I'm still learning Linux and try to make it my every day desktop.
>>>For example I have just transferred all my "Favorites" URLs from IE6 (Windows)
>>>to Mozilla (Linux) and I'm writing this message under Mozilla.
>>>
>>>When I finish moving to Linux I will start porting Chess Tiger to Linux, which
>>>might take some time (not too long I hope because the code has been written to
>>>be portable and has already been ported to another platform which was more
>>>different of Windows than Linux is).
>>>
>>>Then Linux will be my main developpement platform, so the Linux version of Chess
>>>Tiger will probably be always the most up to date.
>>>
>>>When this happens I will post an announcement here and if you want we will
>>>discuss the interfacing possibilities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>linux is not bad, I started learning about unix first w/ linux and now have
>>moved to freebsd not much different as gnu stuff is gnu stuff. Well anyway I
>>know it won't take you long to figure it out, so good luck.
>
>
>
>Actually it took me some time to figure some things out, for 2 reasons:
>
>1) I have started a few months ago with a small distro (small in size: 200Mb)
>called Peanut Linux. While Peanut is a great distro, it's not ideal for Linux
>newbies like me. It provides a lot of basic functionnalities like a very good
>GUI, Internet and email and Office replacement, but I had to add myself some
>components (amongst other things programming tools). And when you add components
>that have not been made specifically for the distro you are using, sometimes it
>does not work perfectly. So you need to know more about Linux than a newbie and
>you run into small problems. These problems add up and in the end it gets on
>your nerves. I can tell that I have learned a lot by using Peanut (well I was
>forced to), but RedHat was much easier to use because all the components I
>needed were already there or could be installed very easily. And they were all
>working fine with each other (that's what RedHat has been working on for so
>long).
>
>2) I have to know much more about the system than the typical user, because I'm
>going to write software for it. So I had to learn things that most users do not
>even care to know.
>
>I think a good distro like RedHat is almost ready for the average desktop user.
>It provides all the functions you need for everyday use: superb GUI (much better
>looking than Windows, and much more customizable). A replacement for Microsoft
>Office: if you know how to use MS Office, then you will feel at home with RedHat
>8. You have a replacement for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and a few others. They
>look almost exactly the same as the Microsoft ones. Internet tools: you have the
>choice between 2 browsers (Mozilla is almost as good as IE6) and 2 email
>programs (Kmail, simple and efficient, and Evolution which is an Outlook clone).
>Audio and video: RedHat 8 provides an audio media player, but you will have to
>download a small plugin to read MP3 files (RedHat wanted to avoid any copyright
>issues with MP3 and decided to not include the MP3 plugin in their distro). The
>same problem exists for video formats, so if you want to read videos you need to
>download XINE and RealPlayer.
>
>My standard test to answer the question "is Linux ready for the desktop" is to
>install it on my mother's computer and see if she can do all the tasks she knows
>how to do under Windows without too much trouble. I have not tried this test
>yet, but I think Linux RedHat 8 would pass the test. I would just have to be
>around so I can answer her questions.
>
>Configuring Linux is slightly more difficult than configuring Windows, but
>anyway this is never done by the average user. It must be done by a qualified
>technician (and it has be done at the factory for preinstalled PCs). So Linux
>currently just puts a little more pressure on qualified technicians at the time
>of install. But it's just at install time. When the system is configured and
>running, it is rock solid, which is not the case at all with Windows!
>
>
>
>
>>linux I think is a better desktop than freebsd but try to still make freebsd
>>native binary as their are plenty of nerds that prefer bsd's in general. It
>>should not be to hard as it's just a slight change in the makefile for crafty.
>
>
>
>I will consider trying to be compatible with FreeBSD, especially because FreeBSD
>is the basic layer of MacOS X.
>
>
>
>
>> I
>>will continue to make suggestions for new features in eboard to pulga and
>>hopefully by the time you are ready, eboard will be too.
>
>
>
>OK.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


I think Mandrake 9.0 is an even better Desktop Linux than RedHat.  It also has
more point and click tools for setting up a LAN easily (to share an internet
connection for example) than I found on RedHat. Also RedHat8.0 IIRC does not
have all the multimedia programs that you normally get in a distro becuase of
issues with mp3

Remembering Mandrake is French and I am English, you will understand how hard it
is for me to say this :-)

Frank




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