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Subject: Re: CCT5, was there something missing?

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 12:50:31 01/20/03

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On January 20, 2003 at 15:38:00, Peter Skinner wrote:

>With the lack of commercial products participating in the CCT, does it lose some
>of the luster in winning it?

Perhaps, but I think you'll find that the participating programmers had a great
time regardless of the fact that the commercial guys didn't turn up.

>
>Of course there are always going to be "what ifs" when all participants do not
>play. Ferret was allowed to play without kibitzing any information. What would
>have happened if Fritz joined and did the same? Would the result have been the
>same?

Ferret was kibitzing on the second day.  I think his initial non compliance was
the result of an oversight.

>
>It seems that there was allowances made for some, and not others. Why was this
>the case?

Allowances were made for those who were participating in the spirit of the
competition.

>
>I am sure if the rule had not been in place, the likes of Shredder, Fritz, and
>possibly Junior would have participated.

I'm not so sure of that.  It would be quite easy for the commercial authors to
implement kibitzing if they wanted to.

There are a number of bigger reasons they didn't play:

1) too busy
2) too much risk of bad publicity
3) chessbase doesn't want to promote ICC when they have a competing server
4) lack of a well recognised title (compared to ICGA World Champs)

>Chess Tiger already has the ability to
>kibitz the pv from the program, so that was not Christophe's reasoning for not
>joining.
>
>I think that if a program is automated is enough to play in the next CCT. If not
>then we might have the same result.



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