Author: James T. Walker
Date: 14:02:35 01/20/03
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On January 20, 2003 at 16:51:00, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 20, 2003 at 16:38:47, James T. Walker wrote: >>On January 20, 2003 at 14:42:10, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>On January 20, 2003 at 11:39:27, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>Neither will 90 rounds. I've seen some discussion about the >>>>times/rounds/playoffs of CCT mostly looking for ways to improve the format. In >>>>my opinion as a spectator the format is great. I even liked the playoff format. >>>> I believe a world championship was decided in a similiar manner not too long >>>>ago. Nobody should expect a swiss system event to produce the strongest player >>>>as the winner every time. >>> >>> >>>The Swiss system produces two data points: >>>1. The strongest player >>>2. The weakest player >> >>Sorry Dan but I have to disagree with you (as usual). The Swiss system produces >>a winner and all other spots down the list. Each one can be a data point. >>Since you can run the same tournament next week-end and get a different winner >>it does NOT produce the strongest player. It produces a winner for that >>tournament only. So what! It's why we play the game. Also just because one >>program finished last this time does not mean it is the weakest and will repeat >>next week. (Unless it is so weak it is doomed to that position all the time) > >I think you missed my point. I think not. I think you missed mine. So I will spell it out for you. Since there is no perfect format to find the strongest program, I find the format in use to be great for spectators like me. Programmers who lost should just get over it since they might be the lucky winner next time. The playoff format has been used in world championship competition so it's also fine by me as a spectator. > >No contest can truly tell us which program is strongest. Not even a trillion >rounds of round-robin. I disagree again. I believe a trillion rounds will show which program is strongest. >However, for a given number of games, a swiss tournament tells us more about >which player is strongest (and weakest) than any other format does. I agree. Jim
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