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Subject: Re: About Stupidity, Moderation and the Future of CCC

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 12:44:34 09/25/98

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Hi Don:
Of course all the thing seems exagerated and apocaliptic the way you put it. But
that is not the wya I puted or tied to put it. I do not believe a witch hund
will begin or that there is a list of ready-to-be exulsed guys. No, no. I dont
say. either, that only Chris, Thorsten and two or three more e the only creative
people here. In fact, at least in terms of computer chess, the most creative
people here are you, Amir, Christhpe, Bob Hyatt, Ed and the resto f programmers,
professional or amateurs. And only Chris, between them, has gone. I don' t say,
either, that creative powers go toguether with insults.
Well, maybe you can ask, what, then, YOU REALLY say?
Forgive me, Don, maybe I have literary skills, BUT in my language, spanish. In
english I fight even againts elemental rules. So, probably I lack the words to
say exactly what i mean, But i will try: what I mean is thtat the creative life
of an endeavour need a necesary dosis of things that seems out of question. Like
very hard steel alloy  needs a mix of rare, even non metalic substances, like
some chemical reactions needs some dosis of weird components, so the life of a
gropus cannot live without a dosis of insults, harsh words, wrath, personal
attacks, jesters, etc.
Yes, I know this sems madness. Nevertheles, it is so. As a sociologist and just
like a 49 years old man, i have seen and studied and searched enough about human
dynamic to know that when you try to clean them of aparently foreign elements
with respect to his formal purpose, you are likely to lose a lot more.
You know, Don? I am not a man of science and so I do not love the scientific
ideal worlds where all is rational, purposeful, clean, just to the point, etc. I
don not like worlds like that you see in Arthur Clarke novels, where all his
characters are ingenieurs thinking mathematical problemas and you don't even
know if they are black or white, passionate people or what. This site is for
computer chess, but nees to keep a real life a dosis of non chessic affairs, non
chessic discussions, non chessic insults and attacks is needed. We need a degree
of fun, jokes, to be capable of telling jokes without half a dozen people
telling you are "off topic".
Yo see now my point? is not only thorsten, wehat matter; it is the kind of site
this will be. Surely the atraction of CCC  is not, for me, just to read about
techncal point of programming. This is not and should not be a kind of
speialized magazine. I xcome here to read your non chessic post like this, to
read Dgoerge Vidanovic, the comments full of irony of Enrique AND also the chess
programming stuff as such. It is diversity what I mean for creativity. It is the
base of it. And diversity mean to be tolerant enough to pay the price.
Well, I hope this will not seem tou you as something even more out of the board.
If it is so, no problem; I undestand that you and me are part of different
cultures, your scientific, mine humanistic. I can imagine that from your point
of view all this is just crap, literary crap, exagerated words, the kind of non
empiric stuff peoople like me thinks and talks. Well, that's right to a degree.
I only want that even a fraction of what it is truth and valuable in my words
can be useful. Lot of time ago I lost the ambition to be in the right side all
the time and entirely.
regards
Fernando



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