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Subject: Re: CCT5, was there something missing?

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 17:25:20 01/20/03

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On January 20, 2003 at 19:07:49, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On January 20, 2003 at 18:25:29, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2003 at 17:12:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>First, the _point_ was that the programs be operated automatically, rather
>>>than manually.  Ferret met this point.  We discussed the kibitzing issue at
>>>length here, but Bruce was not around and didn't notice it.  He _did_ kibitz
>>>on the second day as he made the changes to his code to do this.
>>>
>>>He didn't strictly follow the rules, I agree.  But the explanation was quite
>>>reasonable and he _did_ fix it.
>>
>>Yes we can forgive Bruce I think, obviously an oversight, although I don't
>>understand why people can't be bothered to _read_ a simple page with the rules,
>>no offence.
>>
>>>>I think that if a program is automated is enough to play in the next CCT. If not
>>>>then we might have the same result.
>>>
>>>adding kibitzing requires _one_ line of C code to a program.  IS that a big
>>>stumbling block???
>>>
>>>Or is it just an "excuse"???
>>
>>Right.
>>There is a simple explanation here; the questioneer isn't a chess programmer. If
>>he was, he would know how little effort it takes to make it kibitz. :)
>>
>>-S.
>
>Actually since I _can_ program, I know it can be as simple as a printf
>statement.
>
>Sometimes it is not that easy as Uri below describes.
>
>Possibly you forgot that the Chessbase programs do _not_ directly connect to
>ICC. Therefore you must have an adapter to connect it there. Passing the pv onto
>that adapter might be harder than you can imagine, or why has it not been done
>yet?
>
>The "questioneer" isn't an idiot. Don't try to make him out to be one.

That route doesn't even work because Chessbase GUI blocks all input from the
computer.  "Clip Analysis" from the engine output window isn't possible unless
done from the mouse.

The process that did work was to have Mark make HIARCS output its eval to a file
and then a separate routine constantly checks for this file to be changed and
pastes its content to the winboard interaction window.  Definitely not a "one
line of code" walk in the park that was previously described.

-elc.





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