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Subject: Re: CCT5, was there something missing?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:09:06 01/20/03

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On January 20, 2003 at 20:25:20, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On January 20, 2003 at 19:07:49, Peter Skinner wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2003 at 18:25:29, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 2003 at 17:12:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>First, the _point_ was that the programs be operated automatically, rather
>>>>than manually.  Ferret met this point.  We discussed the kibitzing issue at
>>>>length here, but Bruce was not around and didn't notice it.  He _did_ kibitz
>>>>on the second day as he made the changes to his code to do this.
>>>>
>>>>He didn't strictly follow the rules, I agree.  But the explanation was quite
>>>>reasonable and he _did_ fix it.
>>>
>>>Yes we can forgive Bruce I think, obviously an oversight, although I don't
>>>understand why people can't be bothered to _read_ a simple page with the rules,
>>>no offence.
>>>
>>>>>I think that if a program is automated is enough to play in the next CCT. If not
>>>>>then we might have the same result.
>>>>
>>>>adding kibitzing requires _one_ line of C code to a program.  IS that a big
>>>>stumbling block???
>>>>
>>>>Or is it just an "excuse"???
>>>
>>>Right.
>>>There is a simple explanation here; the questioneer isn't a chess programmer. If
>>>he was, he would know how little effort it takes to make it kibitz. :)
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>Actually since I _can_ program, I know it can be as simple as a printf
>>statement.
>>
>>Sometimes it is not that easy as Uri below describes.
>>
>>Possibly you forgot that the Chessbase programs do _not_ directly connect to
>>ICC. Therefore you must have an adapter to connect it there. Passing the pv onto
>>that adapter might be harder than you can imagine, or why has it not been done
>>yet?
>>
>>The "questioneer" isn't an idiot. Don't try to make him out to be one.
>
>That route doesn't even work because Chessbase GUI blocks all input from the
>computer.  "Clip Analysis" from the engine output window isn't possible unless
>done from the mouse.
>
>The process that did work was to have Mark make HIARCS output its eval to a file
>and then a separate routine constantly checks for this file to be changed and
>pastes its content to the winboard interaction window.  Definitely not a "one
>line of code" walk in the park that was previously described.
>
>-elc.


It's just a lousy design.  What more can anyone say.  However, they claim to
have winboard compatible stuff and winboard makes it a one-liner...



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