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Subject: Re: CCT5, was there something missing?

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 18:11:03 01/20/03

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On January 20, 2003 at 15:38:00, Peter Skinner wrote:

>With the lack of commercial products participating in the CCT, does it lose some
>of the luster in winning it?
>
>Of course there are always going to be "what ifs" when all participants do not
>play. Ferret was allowed to play without kibitzing any information. What would
>have happened if Fritz joined and did the same? Would the result have been the
>same?
>
>It seems that there was allowances made for some, and not others. Why was this
>the case?
>
>I am sure if the rule had not been in place, the likes of Shredder, Fritz, and
>possibly Junior would have participated. Chess Tiger already has the ability to
>kibitz the pv from the program, so that was not Christophe's reasoning for not
>joining.
>
>I think that if a program is automated is enough to play in the next CCT. If not
>then we might have the same result.

I think the decison was not to partipate was simply business.  First, you did
not have any commercials , so who was going to break the ice and why?   If more
than half of them elected to play perhaps things would have been different.  But
with no one playing - a commercial engine had very little upside and tremendous
downside.   In addition with a number of the stronger non commercial engines
playing, the odds were in favor that a single commercial engine would not win
1st place ( the only suitable result for a commercial engine this tournamnet)
against the field.

Did Fritz have anything to gain by playing as the sole commercial engine?

Did Tiger have anything to gain by playing as the sole commercial engine?

Did Junior have anything to gain by playing as the sole commercial engine?

Put yourself in their shoes and the answer is obvious.

They had almost zilch to gain and a MUCH to lose.

Look at the results - Ruffian is viewed as one of the stongest engines available
 - commercial or otherwise - yet, it TIED for first in the standard time control
games.  If Crafty, Ruffian, Yace and Ferret ALL finished ahead of a commercial
engine - the "commercial" part of that engine would be short lived.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a lot of business savvy  here to figure
out what is going on.

It's called "survival' in the "dog eat dog' world of private enterprise.

Michael Byrne



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