Author: Peter Skinner
Date: 18:54:25 01/20/03
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On January 20, 2003 at 21:13:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 20, 2003 at 19:54:44, Peter Skinner wrote: > >>>I didn't have to do anything, you were the one who said: >>> >>>"I think that if a program is automated is enough to play in the next CCT. If >>>not then we might have the same result." >>> >>>Making it automated is the big job, kibitzing isn't. >>> >>>And I actually doubt the job is very big at all, they had two month to copy >>>paste the code from winboard. >>> >>>I think the reason they weren't there was because _they decided_ not to be >>>there, certainly not because the rules made it impossible for them. >>> >>>If you think otherwise you really are insulting their programming skills. >>> >>>-S. >> >>Actually making it "automated" over the internet is as simple as attaching it to >>the winboard autoplayer adapter for Chessbase products. Getting that to kibitz >>is an entirely different matter. >> >>Do you know what language Fritz, Junior, or Shredder are written in? Maybe it >>_isn't_ an easy job to make it automated over the internet. If it was, don't you >>think they would have already done it? Shredder was winboard compatible at one >>point. Why not now? > >He chose to push UCI. > >If a program doesn't encapsulate the engine separately from the GUI, it is >a bad design. If it is encapsulated properly, then adapting to different >interfaces is not hard. > >I use winboard/xboard, plus I have my own custom interface. It was _not_ >a difficult project... > >> >>I am not the one being insulting. You are. > >I don't know about insulting, but "making a mountain out of a molehill" comes >to mind. This is _not_ a hard project. Users are demanding it. It would even >be profitable to have a server interface. I happen to like using the engines that interface with Winboard. They are easier to set up and run. If a program is not Winboard compatible, then kibitzing to a chess server _could_ entail more work than one line of code as Sune would have us all believe. I remember some years ago speaking with Stefan about Shredder 3.0 that _was_ winboard compatible, and if all future versions were going to be the same. He said probably not. I stopped purchasing the Shredder product. Your right it could be profitable.
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