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Subject: Re: Deep Junior 7, out performing Gary Kasparov ??

Author: ralf raul

Date: 05:21:47 01/21/03

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On January 21, 2003 at 07:36:58, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On January 21, 2003 at 04:34:24, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>On January 21, 2003 at 03:23:16, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>We all know that Deep Junior 7 has been modified, tweeked and probably half
>>>re-written since it was originally released in preparation for this game in New
>>>York vs Gary K.
>>>
>>>I'm looking for opinions of the members here at this board,
>>>*on a Pentium 2.4 gigahertz computer, Junior 7 *not Deep Junior* was running
>>>at about 4900 - 5200 nodes per second, faster than Deep Fritz 7 was running in
>>>Baharain (maxed out at 3400kn/s)
>>>
>
>Based on the nodes per second I would NOT make any prediction at all, remember
>that Deeper blue was 100 times fasters. Now based on the improvements made by
>Amir, such as avoiding to trade Queens early, or avoiding Blocked positions with
>the pawn is more important at this moment. Up to this moment we still don't know
>what will be the speed of the hardware that Amir will be using against Kasparov.
>
>
>>>With the improved strength of these engines,  does Gary stand a chance against
>>>this program?
>
>I still believe that Kasparov will win the match by 3.5 to 2.5 if he simply play
>safely waiting for Deep Junior to make a small strategical mistake.
>
>Pichard
>
>>>I know that nodes/sec isn't everything, but it is something to consider,
>>Gary stands a chance only if bad openings are selected for the Computer.Against
>>Kramnik The Deep Fritz Openings was a great disaster.The team consistently
>>selected the most human friendly Openings.There is no doubt in my mind that
>>someboby was totally ignorent about some aspect of computer chess in Bahrain.
>>All the tools for the destruction of even the strongest  human players are here
>>now ;but it seems that some programmers do not know how to use them.In Human
>>Matches nodes/sec doesnt count for much(it does in COMP Vs COMP).
>>
>>                                               Regards
>>                                                Ali M

its still possible that Kasparov (ore other top Gms )could won that kind of
event -say 5-1 ore more .But that is commercial and they dont want to.Sure
better openings for computer and REALY anti human play by comps should help lot.



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