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Subject: Re: Reinstate Thorsten Czub? A plea.

Author: Detlef Pordzik

Date: 15:11:47 09/25/98

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On September 25, 1998 at 01:31:49, Don Dailey wrote:

>On September 25, 1998 at 00:03:38, Detlef Pordzik wrote:
>
>>On September 24, 1998 at 20:27:47, Don Dailey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>Did you consider the possibility that Thorsten was the victim of a pre-planned,
>>>>private email conspiracy which set out to provoke and then zap him based on his
>>>>inevitable "off-topic" response ?
>>>>
>>>>Steve Blatchford
>>>
>>>Do you think we are stupid?  Of course we considered this. We looked
>>>at many angles.  We are convinced that Thorsten was partially baited
>>>and goaded.  The problem is that Thorsten is the easiest one on the
>>>group to bait and that in itself caused a lot of problems.
>>>
>>>- Don
>>
>>Besides the fact, that I can't figure your answer as polite by no means, I
>>partially - must - accept you answer in your proclamation towards the entire NG
>>in annother mail
>
>My answer was not intended to be impolite, I hope Detlef doesn't take
>it that way.   If so I apologize in advance to him.
>
>I probably was a little iritated at the question, simply because
>we tried so hard on Thorstens behalf, and yet in the end it is
>suggested that Thorsten is the victim.  The string of offended
>members doesn't count and are not important but only Thorsten is.
>
>>In the highest majority it was, no doubts, TC's own fault.
>>But " victims " - my Lord - that's a strong word.....
>
>Obviously you were not the subject of his attacks.  It's pretty easy
>for you to say this isn't it?   I don't think some of his targets
>can brush this off as lightly as you do.
>
>>if one wants to nail a thing up high, he does it. And the more he tramples on
>>it, the more it gets disturbing - kinda experience of life....
>>
>>No question, that you didn't make it easy on yourself, you got a defined duty
>>from the NG members, and it ain't easy, as I suggest -
>>yet, senseless, I really pity this loss and somehow can't prevent the feeling
>>of a modern " book burning " -
>>even viewing the respectful work of the moderators, a bad feeling remains -
>>at least from my side....
>>
>>ELVIS
>
>Join the club.  Do you think it was easy for us?
>
>- Don

It's history by now anyway - just like fighting to a mirror.

2 last things :

I've personally been a target for TC's attacs for many times;" Saitek vs Novag,
CSTal vs ELVIS " :-)
I know the man - just as the other affected ones, and it personally didn't mean
a thing to me - 'cause he allways came back to normal behaviour.
This can't be an advice for common use - sure not - just to clarify your insist,
I got some cheap talkin' on this....'cause not affected.

Translate me your last sentence ! I don't get the meaning !

" Join the club " - what do you mean here ?

" Do you think it was easy for us " - what's that ? An academic question ?

Is it really so, that you couldn't read 5 + 6 lines above in my mail, that I
very well can feel, that you had a hard time on this decision ?

I've noticed similar vocabular in your mail to Steve - now same with me.
So be so kind ; gimme an explanation - I'm probably not that good anymore to
understand your native language.

ELVIS



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