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Subject: Re: Deep Junior 7, out performing Gary Kasparov ??

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 10:43:10 01/21/03

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On January 21, 2003 at 13:03:55, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>On January 21, 2003 at 08:24:15, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On January 21, 2003 at 04:34:24, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>
>>>On January 21, 2003 at 03:23:16, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>
>>>>We all know that Deep Junior 7 has been modified, tweeked and probably half
>>>>re-written since it was originally released in preparation for this game in New
>>>>York vs Gary K.
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking for opinions of the members here at this board,
>>>>*on a Pentium 2.4 gigahertz computer, Junior 7 *not not Deep Junior* was running
>>>>at about 4900 - 5200 nodes per second, faster than Deep Fritz 7 was running in
>>>>Baharain (maxed out at 3400kn/s)
>>>>
>>>>With the improved strength of these engines,  does Gary stand a chance against
>>>>this program?
>>>>I know that nodes/sec isn't everything, but it is something to consider,
>>>Gary stands a chance only if bad openings are selected for the Computer.Against
>>>Kramnik The Deep Fritz Openings was a great disaster.The team consistently
>>>selected the most human friendly Openings.There is no doubt in my mind that
>>>someboby was totally ignorent about some aspect of computer chess in Bahrain.
>>>All the tools for the destruction of even the strongest  human players are here
>>>now ;but it seems that some programmers do not know how to use them.In Human
>>>Matches nodes/sec doesnt count for much(it does in COMP Vs COMP).
>>>
>>>                                               Regards
>>>                                                Ali M
>>
>>
>>Kasparov has the ability to defeat DJ with any hardware or opening preparation.
>>You're speaking out of either ignorance, or just plain jealous of top level
>>players, which Kasparov is the best, at this time.
>>
>>Go check the odds on Kasparov vs DJ, the odds favour Kasparov 2:1 so you're
>>blowing smoke as usual.
>>
>>
>>TM
>No matter how many times you tear out your hair you can not stop the progress
>of technology.I saw what your hero Kramnik did against Deep Fritz.Buzz off.

Don't lecture me you duffer! Progress is being made, I'm well aware of that and
if you paid attention to my posts about computer chess developement, you would
realize that I'm closely following that progress.

Kramnik isn't my hero you ignorant prick, but I respect him as one of the 3 top
players alive, Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand.

He could have easily won his match with Deep Fritz, even after dropping a game.
He chose, in a winning position I might add, to play like Tal and threw all
winning chances into the toilet. He also let the draw slip away in time trouble
as he had to give up a piece and stopped calculating. Frustrated he resigned!
Too bad, but people are unpredictable, computers are very predictable!

Kasparov could lose, but the odds are against it. He may only draw, like
Kramnik. Or maybe, Kasparov will play like Kasparov, and fry DJs circuits!

Oh and I'm _not_ going to "buzz off", I've every right to post about this
subject, regardless how this makes you feel.

TM



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