Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 16:09:17 01/21/03
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On January 21, 2003 at 18:17:15, James T. Walker wrote: >On January 21, 2003 at 14:49:36, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On January 21, 2003 at 07:33:46, James T. Walker wrote: >>[snip] >>>Playing Fritz 8 vs Chess Tiger 15 or something similiar is not equal to a coin >>>toss. You are purposely distorting the issue with false analogies to try to >>>prove a not so valid point. For instance a coin toss would be more like playing >>>Fritz 8 vs Fritz 8. >> >>Everything is like a coin toss in a physical world. >> >>For instance, you turn on the light switch and the light comes on. Or does it? >>Perhaps the bulb is burned. Perhaps the power grid is down. Perhaps there is a >>fault in the switch. >> >>There is a great deal of randomness in everything in the physical world. >>Randomness is deliberately built into chess programs. If they played in a >>completely deterministic way, once you figured out a way to beat them, you would >>win every time. >> >>For programs at the top, there is very little difference (according to >>measurements). >> >>I am convinced that we will never know which of the top programs are strongest. >>It should be easy enough to prove me wrong[*], but I doubt if anyone has the >>time or the will to even attempt it. >> >>[*] In theory. In practice, I think a quintillion hours of computer time will >>be hard to come up with. > >Dann,Dann,Dann, >Every thing in the world is not like a coin toss. Please prove that simple >statement and I will read the rest of your nonsense. >Jim The coin toss is an abstraction, a mathematical model used to encapture some statistical properties. Many things, like those Dann mentioned, has same type of probablity distribution, from a mathematical point of view they are identical problems, solve one and you solve them all. -S.
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