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Subject: Re: Deep Junior 7, out performing Gary Kasparov ??

Author: ALI MIRAFZALI

Date: 18:47:28 01/21/03

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On January 21, 2003 at 13:43:10, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On January 21, 2003 at 13:03:55, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>On January 21, 2003 at 08:24:15, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On January 21, 2003 at 04:34:24, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 21, 2003 at 03:23:16, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>We all know that Deep Junior 7 has been modified, tweeked and probably half
>>>>>re-written since it was originally released in preparation for this game in New
>>>>>York vs Gary K.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm looking for opinions of the members here at this board,
>>>>>*on a Pentium 2.4 gigahertz computer, Junior 7 *not not Deep Junior* was running
>>>>>at about 4900 - 5200 nodes per second, faster than Deep Fritz 7 was running in
>>>>>Baharain (maxed out at 3400kn/s)
>>>>>
>>>>>With the improved strength of these engines,  does Gary stand a chance against
>>>>>this program?
>>>>>I know that nodes/sec isn't everything, but it is something to consider,
>>>>Gary stands a chance only if bad openings are selected for the Computer.Against
>>>>Kramnik The Deep Fritz Openings was a great disaster.The team consistently
>>>>selected the most human friendly Openings.There is no doubt in my mind that
>>>>someboby was totally ignorent about some aspect of computer chess in Bahrain.
>>>>All the tools for the destruction of even the strongest  human players are here
>>>>now ;but it seems that some programmers do not know how to use them.In Human
>>>>Matches nodes/sec doesnt count for much(it does in COMP Vs COMP).
>>>>
>>>>                                               Regards
>>>>                                                Ali M
>>>
>>>
>>>Kasparov has the ability to defeat DJ with any hardware or opening preparation.
>>>You're speaking out of either ignorance, or just plain jealous of top level
>>>players, which Kasparov is the best, at this time.
>>>
>>>Go check the odds on Kasparov vs DJ, the odds favour Kasparov 2:1 so you're
>>>blowing smoke as usual.
>>>
>>>
>>>TM
>>No matter how many times you tear out your hair you can not stop the progress
>>of technology.I saw what your hero Kramnik did against Deep Fritz.Buzz off.
>
>Don't lecture me you duffer! Progress is being made, I'm well aware of that and
>if you paid attention to my posts about computer chess developement, you would
>realize that I'm closely following that progress.
>
>Kramnik isn't my hero you ignorant prick, but I respect him as one of the 3 top
>players alive, Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand.
>
>He could have easily won his match with Deep Fritz, even after dropping a game.
>He chose, in a winning position I might add, to play like Tal and threw all
>winning chances into the toilet. He also let the draw slip away in time trouble
>as he had to give up a piece and stopped calculating. Frustrated he resigned!
>Too bad, but people are unpredictable, computers are very predictable!
>
>Kasparov could lose, but the odds are against it. He may only draw, like
>Kramnik. Or maybe, Kasparov will play like Kasparov, and fry DJs circuits!
>
>Oh and I'm _not_ going to "buzz off", I've every right to post about this
>subject, regardless how this makes you feel.
>
>TM
Dont worry about DJs circuits being fried.Worry about Kasparovs Brain.Also
Kramnik didnot have a winning Position in game 6 before Nxf7 (be was barely
out of the opening (I dont have time to teach you computer chess)



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