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Subject: Re: Deep Junior 7, out performing Gary Kasparov ??

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 21:30:14 01/21/03

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On January 21, 2003 at 21:47:28, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>On January 21, 2003 at 13:43:10, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On January 21, 2003 at 13:03:55, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>
>>>On January 21, 2003 at 08:24:15, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 21, 2003 at 04:34:24, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 21, 2003 at 03:23:16, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We all know that Deep Junior 7 has been modified, tweeked and probably half
>>>>>>re-written since it was originally released in preparation for this game in New
>>>>>>York vs Gary K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm looking for opinions of the members here at this board,
>>>>>>*on a Pentium 2.4 gigahertz computer, Junior 7 *not not Deep Junior* was running
>>>>>>at about 4900 - 5200 nodes per second, faster than Deep Fritz 7 was running in
>>>>>>Baharain (maxed out at 3400kn/s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>With the improved strength of these engines,  does Gary stand a chance against
>>>>>>this program?
>>>>>>I know that nodes/sec isn't everything, but it is something to consider,
>>>>>Gary stands a chance only if bad openings are selected for the Computer.Against
>>>>>Kramnik The Deep Fritz Openings was a great disaster.The team consistently
>>>>>selected the most human friendly Openings.There is no doubt in my mind that
>>>>>someboby was totally ignorent about some aspect of computer chess in Bahrain.
>>>>>All the tools for the destruction of even the strongest  human players are here
>>>>>now ;but it seems that some programmers do not know how to use them.In Human
>>>>>Matches nodes/sec doesnt count for much(it does in COMP Vs COMP).
>>>>>
>>>>>                                               Regards
>>>>>                                                Ali M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kasparov has the ability to defeat DJ with any hardware or opening preparation.
>>>>You're speaking out of either ignorance, or just plain jealous of top level
>>>>players, which Kasparov is the best, at this time.
>>>>
>>>>Go check the odds on Kasparov vs DJ, the odds favour Kasparov 2:1 so you're
>>>>blowing smoke as usual.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TM
>>>No matter how many times you tear out your hair you can not stop the progress
>>>of technology.I saw what your hero Kramnik did against Deep Fritz.Buzz off.
>>
>>Don't lecture me you duffer! Progress is being made, I'm well aware of that and
>>if you paid attention to my posts about computer chess developement, you would
>>realize that I'm closely following that progress.
>>
>>Kramnik isn't my hero you ignorant prick, but I respect him as one of the 3 top
>>players alive, Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand.
>>
>>He could have easily won his match with Deep Fritz, even after dropping a game.
>>He chose, in a winning position I might add, to play like Tal and threw all
>>winning chances into the toilet. He also let the draw slip away in time trouble
>>as he had to give up a piece and stopped calculating. Frustrated he resigned!
>>Too bad, but people are unpredictable, computers are very predictable!
>>
>>Kasparov could lose, but the odds are against it. He may only draw, like
>>Kramnik. Or maybe, Kasparov will play like Kasparov, and fry DJs circuits!
>>
>>Oh and I'm _not_ going to "buzz off", I've every right to post about this
>>subject, regardless how this makes you feel.
>>
>>TM
>Dont worry about DJs circuits being fried.Worry about Kasparovs Brain.Also
>Kramnik didnot have a winning Position in game 6 before Nxf7 (be was barely
>out of the opening (I dont have time to teach you computer chess)

Sir, I'm nearly 1000 rating pts. above you, so I think I know a hell of a lot
more about chess and computer chess then you could possibly imagine!

I've played computer chess before you knew it existed, so I could teach you, you
arrogant upstart!

You're a patzer, and if you understood chess you would have seen Bd5! in your
sleep! I would have won that game, but then again, I'm not foolish enough to
sac unsoundly as Kramnik did!

Yes he's a better player than I, without question, but took a risk I knew would
fail! You didn't, comprehend that!

You still don't! Have you defeated a GM before? No of course not, however I
have!

Take your medicine!

TM







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