Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 22:20:15 01/21/03
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On January 21, 2003 at 04:34:43, José Carlos wrote: >On January 20, 2003 at 21:40:14, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On January 20, 2003 at 10:33:24, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On January 20, 2003 at 10:29:09, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On January 20, 2003 at 10:05:41, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Worst theoretical novelty: >>>>>> >>>>>>6...Rb8 in Ruffian-Diep. Either a bug in Vincent's book building code, or >>>>>>garbage in the PGN he used to generate it. >>>>>> >>>>>[D]rnbqk1r1/pp2ppbp/2p2np1/3p4/2PP4/2N1PN2/PP2BPPP/R1BQK2R w KQq - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-Peter >>>>> >>>>>Hello: >>>>> >>>>>To call it the worst theoritical novelty is a mess.... because it was not a >>>>>novelty, it was a severe bug... >>>> >>>>If we define something that was never played in the past as a novelty then it is >>>>clearly a novelty by definition. >>>> >>>>The fact that the move is because of a bug does not change it. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> The term "theoretical novelty", in chess, has a special meaning: it's a >>>novelty that is good. >>> So any random move can be a "novelty" but only good novelties are "theoretical >>>novelties". >>> >>> José C. >> >>No, TN's don't have to be good to be TNs. >> >>Dave > > Maybe you have a different definition over there. > I've played chess for some years, I've played spanish ch. a couple of times, >I've been champion of my area many times... In my experience as a chess player, >a TN is a N which: > - is played by a strong player > - is played in a "correct" game (meaning that, after the move, there's a good >plan) > - is later repeated by others > > In a word, a TN is a N which proves good. A random N is _never_ considered a >TN. Otherwise, every game would contain a TN. > At least, in Spain. > > José C. Well, I've seen GM-annotated games in chess books and magazines where a move is marked both as a TN and as ?, or marked both as a TN and as ?!. The move is not random, it has a purpose, it's just that the idea doesn't happen to work out. I can't say I've ever seen a move marked as TN and ?? at the same time, though. :-) Dave
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