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Subject: Re: testposition - white to play and draw or not? (Rxh7)

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 01:26:33 01/24/03

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On January 23, 2003 at 19:50:09, bobby palacios wrote:

>[D] 2r3k1/7p/q3pBp1/1p1pPnP1/p1nP4/P1N4R/1PQ5/7K w - - 0 1
>
>A nice game between Pharaon 2.62 - TheKing3.23 (p4 2.47ghz, game in 25).  Here
>Pharaon played Rxh7 which seems to draw.
>

Baron (on a P3-500) seems to agree on this as the score is approaching a draw
score:

 ply       time     nodes  score  pv

  5( 8)&      0     10824    -84  c2h2 c8c7 h2f2 a6b6 h1g1
  5( 8)&      0     15553    -76  c2f2 a6b6 h3d3 c8f8 d3f3
  5(11).      0     28357    -76  c2f2 a6b6 h3d3 c8f8 d3f3
  6(11)&      0     39251    -42  c2f2 a6b6 h3d3 f5d4 c3d5 e6d5
  6(13).      0     48779    -42  c2f2 a6b6 h3d3 f5d4 c3d5 e6d5
  7(15)-      2    196209    -77  c2f2 c4a5 h3f3 a5c6 f3f4 a6b6 f4f5
  7(15)&      2    228909    -98  c2f2 c4a5 h3f3 a5b3 f3f4 a6b6 c3e2
  7(15)&      3    261751    -76  c2h2 a6a7 c3b5 a7b7 b2b3 a4b3 h3b3 c4a3 b5a3
  7(15).      3    261788    -76  c2h2 a6a7 c3b5 a7b7 b2b3 a4b3 h3b3 c4a3 b5a3
  8(17)&      5    406005   -108  c2f2 c4a5 h3f3 a5b3 f3f4 a6b6 h1h2 f5d4
  8(18).      7    586185   -108  c2f2 c4a5 h3f3 a5b3 f3f4 a6b6 h1h2 f5d4
  9(21)-     30   2417191   -143  c2h2 a6b7 h2f2 c4a5 f2f4 a5b3 h3d3 b7b6 f4f2
  9(21)&     33   2682240   -143  c2f2 c4a5 f2g2 f5d4 h3h7 a5b7 g2h3 b5b4
  9(21).     33   2682278   -143  c2f2 c4a5 f2g2 f5d4 h3h7 a5b7 g2h3 b5b4
 10(21)&     43   3514781   -168  c2f2 c4a5 f2g2 a6b7 g2e2 f5d4 e2f2 d4f5 h1h2
 10(22).     81   6607260   -168  c2f2 c4a5 f2g2 a6b7 g2e2 f5d4 e2f2 d4f5 h1h2
 11(23)&    135  11165817   -169  c2f2 c4a5 f2h2 a6b7 h3d3 a5b3 d3d1 b3d4 h2f4
d4b3 d1f1
 11(23)&    217  17698080   -168  c2h2 a6b7 h2f2 c4a5 h1g2 a5b3 h3d3 b7b6 c3e2
c8c2 d3c3 f5d4
 11(24)+    344  27794085   -133  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 f5g3 h1h2 c4b2 h7h8 f8f7
 11(24)&    372  30066743   -109  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 c4e5 f6e5 f8e8
 11(24).    415  33404069   -109  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 c4e5 f6e5 f8e8
 12(25)+    652  52179646    -74  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 c4e5 d4e5 f5g3 h1h2 g3f1 h2g1 d5d4
 12(25)&    862  68584491     -9  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 c4e5 d4e5 b5b4 h7h8 f8f7 h8h7 f7e8
 12(25).    970  76709317     -9  h3h7 g8h7 c2h2 h7g8 h2h8 g8f7 h8h7 f7e8 h7g6
e8f8 g6h7 c4e5 d4e5 b5b4


>The game continued:
>
>1. Rxh7 Kxh7 2.Qh2+ Kg8 3.Qh8+ Kf7 4.Qh7+ Ke8 5.Qxg6+ Kf8 6.Qh7 Nxe5 7.Bxe5 b4
>
>[D] 2r2k2/7Q/q3p3/3pBnP1/pp1P4/P1N5/1P6/7K w - - 0 8
>
>I think this was the critical position.  White still seems to have a draw, but
>Pharaon blundered by playing Qh8+ (time trouble) and the king was able to escape
>and win.  Most of the programs I've tested likes 8. g6(TheKing3.23 expected g6
>giving a draw score), and black is the one that gives perpetual with ..Qf1+ Kh2,
>Qf2+ etc..

The Baron chooses Kg1 with a draw score:

 ply       time     nodes  score  pv

  4( 9)&      0     10291      0  h7h8 f8e7 a3b4
  4(13).      0     41639      0  h7h8 f8e7 a3b4
  5(12)&      0     48667      0  h7h8 f8e7 h8h7 e7d8 e5f6 d8e8 h7g8 e8d7 g8f7
d7c6 a3b4
  5(16).      2    156379      0  h7h8 f8e7 h8h7 e7d8 e5f6 d8e8 h7g8 e8d7 g8f7
d7c6 a3b4
  6(18)-      5    463246    -35  h7h8 f8e7 h8h7 e7e8 h7g8 e8d7 g8f7 f5e7 e5f6
a6f1 h1h2 b4c3 f7e7
  6(18)&      6    504558    -89  h7h8 f8e7 h8f6 e7d7 f6f7 f5e7 a3b4 a4a3 b2a3
c8c3
  6(18).      8    635754    -89  h7h8 f8e7 h8f6 e7d7 f6f7 f5e7 a3b4 a4a3 b2a3
c8c3
  7(19)+     30   2336556    -54  h1g1 b4c3 g5g6 c3b2 h7h8 f8e7 h8h7 e7f8 <rep>
  7(19)&     35   2787862    -37  h1g1 f8e8 g5g6 f5e7 e5f6 a6d6 f6e5 d6c6 a3b4
  7(19).     36   2828699    -37  h1g1 f8e8 g5g6 f5e7 e5f6 a6d6 f6e5 d6c6 a3b4
  8(20)&     51   4036361    -13  h1g1 f8e8 a3b4 a6c6 g5g6 f5e7 g6g7 e8d7 h7c2
c6d6
  8(21).    136  10209366    -13  h1g1 f8e8 a3b4 a6c6 g5g6 f5e7 g6g7 e8d7 h7c2
  9(22)&    205  15254722    -11  h1g1 f8e8 a3b4 a4a3 g5g6 f5e7 b4b5 a6b6 e5f6
  9(23).    497  35926548    -11  h1g1 f8e8 a3b4 a4a3 g5g6 f5e7 b4b5 a6b6
 10(24)&    751  54940509      0  h1g1 f8e8 a3b4 a6d3 h7g8 e8d7 g8h7 d7e8 <rep>

Richard.
>
>So what does your program say about these two positions?



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