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Subject: Re: Maximal thermal dissipation 75.3 Watt for the Athlon XP 2800+ !

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 02:32:21 01/24/03

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On January 24, 2003 at 03:05:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>" For cost reasons, AMD does without a heat spreader. With a core voltage of
>1.65 Volt and a clock speed of 2250 MHz (Athlon XP 2800+), the maximal thermal
>dissipation is 75.3 Watt, while that of the Athlon XP 2700+ (2166 MHz) is 68.3
>Watt."  For that only reason I prefer the Athlon XP2700+ since the performance
>difference is NOT that Great.
>
>http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20021001/xp_2800-01.html

http://www.doerte-richter.de/mulle-78/AMD/amd_term_power.htm
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/thermal.htm
http://www.intel.com/design/Itanium2/datashts/25094501.pdf (page 13)

Here are some nice exerpts:
Thunderbird 1.4 GHz - 72.1 W
AthlonXP 2100 (Palomino) - 72.0 W
AthlonXP 2200 (Thoroughbred A) - 67.9 W
AthlonXP 2700 (Thoroughbred B) - 68.3 W
P4 2.0 GHz - 75.3 W
P4 3.06 GHz - 81.8 W
Itanium 800 MHz - 130 W

75.3 Watts isn't really that bad. It just means you need a bigger power supply
and a better heatsink.

The benchmarks at the end of the article are interesting. Several show AthlonXP
being beaten by a slower-clocked P4. That raises my eyebrows since AthlonXP can
do any ALU/FPU/MMX/SSE1 op -faster- than the P4 can. That would imply usage of
SSE 2, and likely very crappy equivalent sequences for Athlon. (Consider - Gerd
has stated that Athlon dispatches up to 4 MMX ops/clock; SSE 2 ops on P4 have a
latency of 2 clocks and up and can only dispatch 1 op/cycle! Therefore emulation
sequences = up to twice as fast on Athlon.)

-Matt



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