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Subject: Re: Test position

Author: Rory Nolan

Date: 07:57:25 01/25/03

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On January 25, 2003 at 05:41:10, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On January 25, 2003 at 03:40:51, Ernst Walet wrote:
>
>>This is a nice and rather difficult test position IMHO.
>>
>>
>>f3e5 - white
>>[D] 2r1rbk1/2qb2pp/pp2p3/4p1P1/nP5Q/4BN2/2P2RBP/5R1K w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Shredder 7:
>>
>>1.c4 Bxb4
>>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.c4 Bxb4
>>  -+  (-1.94)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.g6
>>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.g6
>>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>>  +-  (3.17)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>>  +-  (3.17)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>>  -+  (-4.03)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>>  -+  (-4.15)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.c4 Bxb4
>>  -+  (-2.98)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.c4 Bxb4
>>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.c4 Bxb4
>>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.g6 Bxb4
>>  µ  (-1.37)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.g6 Qxc2
>>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1.g6 hxg6
>>  =  (0.07)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4
>>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Ne1
>>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Qc4 3.Nxe5 Qxe4
>>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Nc3 3.Nxe5 Nxe4
>>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Nc3 3.Nxe5 Nxe4 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8
>>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00
>>1.g6 h6 2.Bd2 Bb5 3.Re1
>>  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Qxc2 2.Nxc2
>>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Kh8 2.g6 Bc6 3.Qxh7#
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.g6 hxg6 3.Rxf8+ Rxf8 4.Qh7+ Kxh7
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.g6 hxg6 3.Rxf8+ Rxf8 4.Rxf8+ Kxf8 5.Qh8+ Ke7 6.Qxg7+ Kd6 7.Qd7+ Kxd7
>>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.Nd3 Bc6 3.g6 Bxg2+ 4.Kxg2
>>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00
>>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nd3 Be7 4.Qg4 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2
>>  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  114kN
>>1.g6 h6 2.Nd2 Qc3 3.Rf7 Red8 4.R1f3 Bxb4
>>  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  148kN
>>1.g6 h6 2.Nd2 Qc3 3.Rf7 Qxe3 4.Rxd7 Kh8
>>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  160kN
>>1.g6 h6 2.Ne1 Be7 3.Qg4 Qc4 4.Qd1 Bc6 5.Bxc6 Qxc6+ 6.Qd5 exd5
>>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:01  430kN
>>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Bxf3 4.Bxf3
>>  ³  (-0.52)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:01  474kN
>>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Ng5 Bxg5 5.Bxg5 Bxg2+ 6.Rxg2
>>  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:01  512kN
>>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qg4 Bxg2+ 4.Nxg2 g5 5.Qe4 Nc3 6.Bxg5 Nxe4
>>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:03  944kN
>>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 h6 3.Kg1 Bxg2 4.Nxg2 Be7 5.Qe4 Rf8 6.Rxf8+ Rxf8 7.Rxf8+ Bxf8
>>8.Qd4 exd4
>>  ³  (-0.61)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:06  2070kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Bb5 4.Ng5 Bxf1 5.Qh7#
>>  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:09  3115kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Qg4 Bd5 5.Qxg6 Rf8 6.b5
>>  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:10  3570kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bxb4 3.g6 hxg6 4.Ng5 Bxg2+ 5.Kg1 Re7 6.Rxg2 e4
>>  ³  (-0.33)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:18  6256kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bb5 3.g6 h6 4.Rb1 Qc4 5.Qh5 Bxb4 6.Qxe5
>>  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:20  6823kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Nc3 3.g6 h6 4.Nxc3 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2 Qxc3 6.Qf6 gxf6
>>  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:29  10133kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Nc3 3.g6 h6 4.Rf7 Nxe4 5.Rxc7 Rxc7
>>  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:31  10684kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bb5 3.g6 h6 4.Bxh6 Bxf1 5.Bf4 Qb7 6.Rxf1 exf4 7.Qh7#
>>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 13/35   00:01:05  22945kN
>>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 Bxg2+ 3.Rxg2 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qf2 Re7 6.c4 Rd7 7.b5 axb5 8.cxb5
>>Rcc7 9.Rxd7 Rxd7 10.Nc4
>>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 14/40   00:02:36  55251kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qc7 3.Be4 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qxh6 gxh6 6.Bh7#
>>  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 14/40   00:03:18  71105kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qc7 3.Be4 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qxh6 Bxb4
>>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 14/40   00:03:27  74537kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.hxg7 Qxe4+ 6.Qxe4 Bxg7 7.Qg6 Bc6+
>>8.Kg1 Kh8 9.Rf4 Nc5 10.bxc5 Ba8
>>  +-  (1.93)   Depth: 14/41   00:04:36  100964kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>>8.Qg4 Kxh6 9.Rxf8 Rxf8 10.Qxe6+ g6 11.Qxc6
>>  +-  (2.09)   Depth: 15/45   00:05:59  133620kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>>8.Qg4 gxh6 9.Rf7+ Kh8 10.R1f6 Bg7 11.Rxg7 Rd1+ 12.Qxd1
>>  +-  (2.34)   Depth: 16/42   00:07:43  172692kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>>8.Qg4 gxh6 9.Rf7+ Kh8 10.R1f6 Bg7 11.Rxg7 Rd2
>>  +-  (2.84)   Depth: 16/42   00:08:46  195671kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qc4 b5 11.Qe6 Nb2 12.Qc8+
>>  +-  (3.29)   Depth: 16/50   00:11:56  270928kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qc4 b5 11.Qe6 Kh8 12.Qxf7
>>  +-  (3.54)   Depth: 17/45   00:16:42  374559kN
>>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qd8+ Rf8 11.Qd5+ Kh8 12.Qc6 b5
>>  +-  (3.70)   Depth: 17/45   00:21:18  471578kN
>>
>>(Athlon XP 2400+, 1024MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 25.01.2003)
>>
>>Gentlemen, start your engine, :)
>>
>>Ernst.
>
>Junior 8 will find 1.Nxe5 in a few seconds.
>A type of position Garry has to avoid :)

Fritz8 doesn't get this after 30 mins on my XP 1900+ 256mb hash 3,4 and most
5man EGTB's

New game
2r1rbk1/2qb2pp/pp2p3/4p1P1/nP5Q/4BN2/2P2RBP/5R1K w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Ng5 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  154kN
1.g6 h6 2.Kg1 Bb5 3.Re1 Nc3 4.Ra1
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  158kN
1.g6 h6 2.Kg1 Bb5 3.Re1 Nc3 4.Ra1
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  158kN
1.g6 h6 2.Kg1 Bb5 3.Rb1 Nc3 4.Ra1 Red8
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:00  353kN
1.Ne1!
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:00  420kN
1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Ng5 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 8/25   00:00:00  468kN
1.Nd2!
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:01  786kN
1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Qe7 3.Kg1 Bb5 4.Rf7 Qxf7 5.Rxf7 Kxf7
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  1423kN
1.Ne1!
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  1642kN
1.g6!
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:03  1817kN
1.g6 h6 2.Ne1 Be7 3.Qh5 Bxb4 4.Nd3 Bc3 5.Rf7 Rf8
  ³  (-0.69)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:08  4882kN
1.Nd2!
  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:10  5948kN
1.Nd2!
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:11  6182kN
1.Nd2 Nc3 2.Rf7 Qd8 3.Qf2 Rb8 4.Qh4 Bb5 5.Be4 Nxe4
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:12  7305kN
1.Nd2 Nc3 2.Rf7 Qd8 3.Bxb6 Qxb6 4.g6 hxg6 5.Rxd7 Rb8 6.Ne4 Bxb4
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 11/34   00:00:23  12845kN
1.Nd2!
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:47  29595kN
1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bd5 3.Qh5 Red8 4.Rf7 Qxc2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/37   00:02:00  74466kN
1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 b5 3.Rf7 Qxf7 4.Rxf7 Kxf7 5.Qxh7 Bxe4 6.Bxe4 Red8 7.g6+
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 14/39   00:03:38  143867kN
1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bd5 3.Qh5 Bxe4 4.Bxe4 g6 5.Qh3 Qc4 6.Bd3 Qxb4 7.Bxa6 Qe4+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/42   00:10:14  430386kN
1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bd5 3.Qh5 Bxe4 4.Bxe4 g6 5.Qh3 Bg7 6.Rf7 Re7 7.Rxe7 Qxe7 8.Bd2
b5
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 16/43   00:21:02  901806kN

(Nolan, 25.01.2003)



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