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Subject: Re: Pent 4 not good for computer chess?

Author: Yen Art Tham

Date: 10:35:40 01/25/03

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On January 25, 2003 at 11:10:05, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On January 24, 2003 at 20:14:45, Jason Kasick wrote:
>
>>Found this in a finger note of the best computer on FICS.
>>
>>Anyone that uses a P4 for chess is crazy. A celeron 1GHz beats a P4-1.5GHz
>>\   at chess, AthlonXP 2000+ is equal with a P4-2.8GHz and an AthlonXP 2200+
>>\   is faster than even a P4-3GHz. It would take a P4-3.9GHz to equal an
>>\   AthlonXP 2400+ running at 2.5GHz.
>>
>>
>>Any validity to this?
>
>Absolutely (that is my FICS account, by the way). I personally tested MANY
>different computer systems with optimized Crafty binaries. Incase you're
>wondering the speed difference follows over to other chess programs as well.
>Such as a Celeron-1GHz being faster than a P4-1.5GHz in Crafty and, say, Deep
>Junior. Here is a graph of my results from the testing I've done:
>
>http://speedycpu.dyndns.org/crafty/craftybench4.jpg
>
>Each CPU used a binary optimized specifically for that CPU. An AthlonXP had a
>partially AthlonXP optimized Crafty binary (Matt Taylor is working on even
>better optimizations). Pentium4 used a binary optimized Pentium 4's. Pentium 3's
>used P3 binaries, etc.
>
>I made a large effort to make the fastest binaries and to produce the fastest
>results possible out of all of the machines. So far I think the Pentium 4 is a
>waste. It's slower, runs hotter and is much more expensive. Why bother?
>
>For those of you that say AMD is unstable I highly recommend you using something
>other than a $50 motherboard or a cheapo stick of ram. It's not AMD's fault if
>the board/ram/etc is of poor quality. Don't blame them. I've been using AMD cpus
>since the 486 days and have NEVER had any stability problems when the chip was
>coupled with quality components.


I have a suggestion: why don't you post a "performance index" on your site,
let's say give Athlon 1.2gHz (SSDF-cpu) an PI of 1 with all the other cpus
referenced to it.

yat



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