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Subject: Re: Test position

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 12:24:47 01/25/03

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I haven't seen one convincing score like shredder produces and suspect that most
of the engines will drop Nxe5 some ply later...

Ernst.

On January 25, 2003 at 03:40:51, Ernst Walet wrote:

>This is a nice and rather difficult test position IMHO.
>
>
>f3e5 - white
>[D] 2r1rbk1/2qb2pp/pp2p3/4p1P1/nP5Q/4BN2/2P2RBP/5R1K w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7:
>
>1.c4 Bxb4
>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.c4 Bxb4
>  -+  (-1.94)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.g6
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.g6
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>  +-  (3.17)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>  +-  (3.17)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>  -+  (-4.03)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5
>  -+  (-4.15)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.c4 Bxb4
>  -+  (-2.98)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.c4 Bxb4
>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.c4 Bxb4
>  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.g6 Bxb4
>  µ  (-1.37)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.g6 Qxc2
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>1.g6 hxg6
>  =  (0.07)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4
>  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Ne1
>  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Qc4 3.Nxe5 Qxe4
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Nc3 3.Nxe5 Nxe4
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Qe4 Nc3 3.Nxe5 Nxe4 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00
>1.g6 h6 2.Bd2 Bb5 3.Re1
>  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Qxc2 2.Nxc2
>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Kh8 2.g6 Bc6 3.Qxh7#
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.g6 hxg6 3.Rxf8+ Rxf8 4.Qh7+ Kxh7
>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.g6 hxg6 3.Rxf8+ Rxf8 4.Rxf8+ Kxf8 5.Qh8+ Ke7 6.Qxg7+ Kd6 7.Qd7+ Kxd7
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Bb5 2.Nd3 Bc6 3.g6 Bxg2+ 4.Kxg2
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00
>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nd3 Be7 4.Qg4 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2
>  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  114kN
>1.g6 h6 2.Nd2 Qc3 3.Rf7 Red8 4.R1f3 Bxb4
>  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  148kN
>1.g6 h6 2.Nd2 Qc3 3.Rf7 Qxe3 4.Rxd7 Kh8
>  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  160kN
>1.g6 h6 2.Ne1 Be7 3.Qg4 Qc4 4.Qd1 Bc6 5.Bxc6 Qxc6+ 6.Qd5 exd5
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:01  430kN
>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Bxf3 4.Bxf3
>  ³  (-0.52)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:01  474kN
>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Ng5 Bxg5 5.Bxg5 Bxg2+ 6.Rxg2
>  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:01  512kN
>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Qg4 Bxg2+ 4.Nxg2 g5 5.Qe4 Nc3 6.Bxg5 Nxe4
>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:03  944kN
>1.Ne1 Bc6 2.g6 h6 3.Kg1 Bxg2 4.Nxg2 Be7 5.Qe4 Rf8 6.Rxf8+ Rxf8 7.Rxf8+ Bxf8
>8.Qd4 exd4
>  ³  (-0.61)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:06  2070kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Bb5 4.Ng5 Bxf1 5.Qh7#
>  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:09  3115kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 hxg6 3.Nf3 Be7 4.Qg4 Bd5 5.Qxg6 Rf8 6.b5
>  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:10  3570kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bxb4 3.g6 hxg6 4.Ng5 Bxg2+ 5.Kg1 Re7 6.Rxg2 e4
>  ³  (-0.33)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:18  6256kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bb5 3.g6 h6 4.Rb1 Qc4 5.Qh5 Bxb4 6.Qxe5
>  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:20  6823kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Nc3 3.g6 h6 4.Nxc3 Bxg2+ 5.Kxg2 Qxc3 6.Qf6 gxf6
>  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:29  10133kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Nc3 3.g6 h6 4.Rf7 Nxe4 5.Rxc7 Rxc7
>  ³  (-0.49)   Depth: 12/33   00:00:31  10684kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.Ne4 Bb5 3.g6 h6 4.Bxh6 Bxf1 5.Bf4 Qb7 6.Rxf1 exf4 7.Qh7#
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 13/35   00:01:05  22945kN
>1.Nd2 Bc6 2.g6 Bxg2+ 3.Rxg2 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qf2 Re7 6.c4 Rd7 7.b5 axb5 8.cxb5
>Rcc7 9.Rxd7 Rxd7 10.Nc4
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 14/40   00:02:36  55251kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qc7 3.Be4 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qxh6 gxh6 6.Bh7#
>  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 14/40   00:03:18  71105kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qc7 3.Be4 h6 4.Rf7 Qd8 5.Qxh6 Bxb4
>  =  (0.20)   Depth: 14/40   00:03:27  74537kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.hxg7 Qxe4+ 6.Qxe4 Bxg7 7.Qg6 Bc6+
>8.Kg1 Kh8 9.Rf4 Nc5 10.bxc5 Ba8
>  +-  (1.93)   Depth: 14/41   00:04:36  100964kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>8.Qg4 Kxh6 9.Rxf8 Rxf8 10.Qxe6+ g6 11.Qxc6
>  +-  (2.09)   Depth: 15/45   00:05:59  133620kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>8.Qg4 gxh6 9.Rf7+ Kh8 10.R1f6 Bg7 11.Rxg7 Rd1+ 12.Qxd1
>  +-  (2.34)   Depth: 16/42   00:07:43  172692kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qd6 3.Be4 h6 4.gxh6 Qxd4 5.Bh7+ Kxh7 6.Qxd4 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Rcd8
>8.Qg4 gxh6 9.Rf7+ Kh8 10.R1f6 Bg7 11.Rxg7 Rd2
>  +-  (2.84)   Depth: 16/42   00:08:46  195671kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qc4 b5 11.Qe6 Nb2 12.Qc8+
>  +-  (3.29)   Depth: 16/50   00:11:56  270928kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qc4 b5 11.Qe6 Kh8 12.Qxf7
>  +-  (3.54)   Depth: 17/45   00:16:42  374559kN
>1.Nxe5 Qxe5 2.Bd4 Qxd4 3.Qxd4 Bb5 4.Rxf8+ Rxf8 5.Rxf8+ Rxf8 6.Bh3 Bc6+ 7.Kg1 Be8
>8.Bxe6+ Bf7 9.Bxf7+ Rxf7 10.Qd8+ Rf8 11.Qd5+ Kh8 12.Qc6 b5
>  +-  (3.70)   Depth: 17/45   00:21:18  471578kN
>
>(Athlon XP 2400+, 1024MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 25.01.2003)
>
>Gentlemen, start your engine, :)
>
>Ernst.



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